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Explanation of MS Explorer's sinking doesn't hold water
CSM on yahoo ^ | 12/3/07 | Colin Woodard

Posted on 12/03/2007 10:16:03 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 12/03/2007 10:16:05 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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The M/S Explorer cruise ship sinks hours after hitting an iceberg off the coast of the Antarctic, in this photo released by the Chilean Army November 23, 2007. REUTERS/Chilean Navy/Handout


2 posted on 12/03/2007 10:17:59 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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A view of the MS Explorer beginning to heel starboard after hitting an iceberg on 22 November 2007. A Chilean military aircraft Saturday arrived in Antarctica to pick up rescued passengers whose Canadian-chartered cruise ship hit an iceberg and sank off the frozen continent. (AFP/Chilean Navy/File)


3 posted on 12/03/2007 10:18:30 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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4 posted on 12/03/2007 10:26:00 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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From the headline, I though this article was going to be about Microsoft’s web browser.


5 posted on 12/03/2007 10:26:44 PM PST by HAL9000 (Fred Thompson/Mike Huckabee 2008)
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"A fist-sized hole doesn't sound like ice damage to me," he says.

Well, I'll bet it wasn't a fist-sized hole. I'll bet it was a long gash, just like the Titanic. How could a rock or anything else punch a hole in the SIDE ?

6 posted on 12/03/2007 10:33:43 PM PST by dr_lew
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Ha! Me, too!


7 posted on 12/03/2007 10:34:56 PM PST by JennysCool (Merry Christmas!)
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To: dr_lew

as I understand it , it was built specifically for this type of environment, double hulled or such..,, and now rocks in the ice.. hmmmm.. too bad this thing is now over 4,000 feet , I think 4800 or maybe 4500 feet down.

I’m sure they will send a submersible there someday to check the wreck out.. lots of lawsuits and many years of wrangling will likely ensue..


8 posted on 12/03/2007 10:44:54 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: HAL9000
Me three!

I bet those people awaiting rescue started to wish that global warming would hurry up.

I remember hearing Rush Limbaugh talk about Al Gore's connection to this story: There was little mention in the mainstream media that the passengers were comprised of eco warriors or that they had spent thousands of dollars to see ice at a much closer range than they ever dreamed…

9 posted on 12/03/2007 10:53:35 PM PST by FoxInSocks
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Lawsuits for what? Nobody even got hurt. Nobody’s going to go a mile down in Antarctic waters for this boat.

Also, I don’t think the ship was entirely double hulled. It had a double hulled bow, or something like that. I say it’s an almost exact replay of the Titanic - the captain overestimated his ship, and disrespected the ice.


10 posted on 12/03/2007 10:55:40 PM PST by dr_lew
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I smell a rat. Was Al’s Still Sore aboard? If so,did he have the crew in the lecture hall to watch his dumb movie again?


11 posted on 12/03/2007 10:58:27 PM PST by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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Lawsuits for what?

The penguins are seeking counsel I hear. Some of their immediate area was befouled or threatened at least. That should be worth something. lol

Sounds like the Captain can always claim the radar was faulty anyway..


12 posted on 12/03/2007 11:00:40 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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Another France/Rainbow Warrior incident?


13 posted on 12/03/2007 11:01:59 PM PST by VanShuyten ("The pilgrims had opened with their Winchesters, and were simply squirting lead into that bush")
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maybe they got dinged by a sub, who knows..


14 posted on 12/03/2007 11:03:00 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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"Lawsuits for what? "

Ship sank by accident? Lloyd's asked to pay on policy?

Passengers suffer mental anguish of dying in a life boat, drowning at sea.

yitbos

15 posted on 12/03/2007 11:07:11 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: HAL9000

Who in their right mind, after 12 years of experience with Windows, would not expect a ship named after MS Internet Explorer, to go under unexpectedly?

All kidding aside, this just demonstrated that 95 years later we still can’t make unsinkable ships.


16 posted on 12/03/2007 11:08:05 PM PST by Swordmaker (Entered and posted entirely with my iPhone.)
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Pretty clearly it was a mine placed by CIA frogmen under the direction of Karl Rove and Dick Cheney. Notice that the ship is conveniently heeled over on her starboard side so you can't see the damage? IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!

OK, I'm kidding. Sounds like something holed her AND caused a crack, which is probably where more of the water came from than the hole. And that she got thumped again on the damaged side. Bad juju. Damage control can isolate a compartment but it gets tougher if the crack runs across several of them.

That assumes a timely response, and human beings being imperfect you always run into imperfect responses. That and a bad combination of circumstances and you have yet another wreck on an ocean bottom littered with them. Great thing nobody died. Some eco-enthusiasts just got presented with how hostile the real world can be. Probably a good thing.

17 posted on 12/03/2007 11:14:10 PM PST by Billthedrill
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Loss of luggage, couldnt bring expensive camera equipment on lifeboat, deprival of trip enjoyment, caught the sniffles. . . lots of potential lawsuits.


18 posted on 12/03/2007 11:17:42 PM PST by Swordmaker (Entered and posted entirely with my iPhone.)
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19 posted on 12/03/2007 11:20:55 PM PST by HAL9000 (Fred Thompson/Mike Huckabee 2008)
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As per the History Channel, in the past pressure to investigate has come from families of those lost in a shipwreck. As to the passengers suing, this seems to me doubtful given their clientele. Click on the sample Antarctic trip log at the trip log page of G.A.P. Adventures. It's a pdf and shows bikini clad cruise participants cavorting in Antarctic waters ... but you never know!
20 posted on 12/03/2007 11:33:19 PM PST by dr_lew
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