Posted on 12/03/2007 8:05:44 PM PST by jdm
If the CNN GOP debate proved anything, it is that Ron Paul is not going gently into that goodnight, no matter how badly his fellow Republicans wished he would.
Not since the days of Ross Perot has a candidate flown in the face of the American political Wehrmacht. The public response has never been as robust as Paul's supporters, who possess every level of education, variety of profession, and personal value structure imaginable.
The Paul supporters put their money where there mouths are, and the coffers for Paul's campaign continue to swell.
One independent organizer, Trevor Lyman, an online music promoter, was the catalyst behind the Guy Fawkes Day raise of $4.2 million.
The Paul base are tech savvy and know how to network and organize, and their efforts are paying off.
The December 16 anniversary of the 1773 Boston Tea Party protest of taxation without representation is the next big push, as nearly 24,000 people have pledged to donate $100.
Republican candidate, Ron Paul, spoke in a message emailed to his supporters today.
Paul expressed his dissatisfaction with the CNN debate and the bias of limiting his time to speak but he did say that he was happy that McCain launched his premeditated attack toward him.
Paul said, Mainstream politicians never attack an opponent they think is far behind. The McCain campaign, we've heard, is worried sick about New Hampshire, and they thought a slam at me would help. Ha! Of course, it only strengthened our forces.
Describing the number of supporters that turned out outside the debate in St Petersburg Florida for the debate, Paul said, We, on the other hand, had about 500 enthusiastic revolutionaries, plus a boat, a trolley, and two planes towing lighted signs. As I looked out at the crowd, I thought: the establishment has no idea of what they are facing. We have an army of freedom, prosperity, and peace.
The British also thought they had no problem with the Americans--until Yorktown. Paul continued, Rudy Giuliani walked up to me and said, Oooh, you sure have a LOT of supporters. Its only the beginning, I told him.
Paul also said, The military-industrial complex, the biased media, the big banks, the Fed, the waterboarders, and the IRS dont like what were doing. But every good American is applauding us, and daring to hope for a better future.
One of Paul's supporters in Los Angeles is Stephen Vincent, who has organized "The Freedom Message" - a live call-in internet talk radio show which chronicles and supports the growth of the Freedom Movement and the campaign of Congressman Ron Paul for President. LINK
This YouTube channel is an outlet for archived programs overlayed with video content, related video productions and Steven Vincent's VideoBlog.
Monsters had a chance to speak with Vincent today.
What turnout are you anticipating for the December 16 "Tea Party" in Santa Monica?
Stephen Vincent: There does seem to be some buzz growing around this and folks are coming from as far away as Santa Barbara, Ventura and Riverside. Its always tough to call. I would guesstimate 100-125 people.
How and why did you get involved in the Ron Paul movement?
Stephen Vincent: The country is no longer ruled by law but rather by men (and women). There is a corrupt plutocracy ruling over us which disregards the constitution and if we as a people do not take decisive action it will be our near term fate to be subjected to dictatorship, unending war and economic collapse. Ron Paul stands for the rule of law, the Constitution and government of, by and for the people.
Why are both the "liberal" and "conservative" mainstream press so negative towards Paul and his supporters, in your opinion?
Stephen Vincent: The old left/right, Democrat/Republican, Liberal/Conservative political paradigm is breaking down. Both sides of the false paradigm have vested interests in its maintenance. Ron Paul and his message of freedom heralds the new paradigm: Constitutionalist vs. Statist.
Statists, whether of the left or right varieties believe that the State is the solution to every problem. Constitutionalists believe in the rights of the individual and that rule of law protects the individual and society from the tyranny of the State.
The Ron Paul Revolution is a revolution on a paradigmatic level. The body politic Americana is being radically reconfigured at this very moment and will never be the same.
If Paul is shut out of the GOP convention, will you urge him run as an Independent?
Stephen Vincent: I will support an Independent or Third Party run by Congressman Paul and would urge him to do so in the event that he does not win the Republican Party nomination.
When you find an instance of Dwigfht Eisenhower giving aid to an enemy of the Republic during wartime, you can go ahead and compare Paul to Ike. Until then, Paul is the kooky traitor and Ike is the guy who won the European half of WWII. Try to keep them straight.
That is why I brought up Eisenhower, who also mentioned the military industrial complex. My post had nothing to do with comparing them or with WWII, or anything else you mentioned. Try to keep that straight.
Indeed it does.
Here is a Buchanan thread posted 6/1/99
Buchanan Calls Kosovo a 'Blunder'...
Seeking to set himself apart from his rivals for the GOP presidential nomination, Buchanan said George W. Bush, John McCain, Elizabeth Dole and Steve Forbes were ``virtual Xerox copies'' of President Clinton and Vice President Al Gore when it comes to the Balkans and a variety of other trade and economic issues.
And check out this REPLY to it.
From another 1999 WhiteWater post...
Bombs Fall On Belgrade On Eve Of Envoys' Arrival
with the following reply...
Here's a challenge for all of us. Find out who gets the government contracts for reconstruction. (The arms resupply contractors are already long in place.) Match them against a list of campaign contributions or similar buy-ins. Connect the dots of corruption and read the diagram of the death of America.
So you tell me. Were we cut and run anti military posters then when we opposed nation building wars? splain please.
the reason a lot of us don't support Ron Paul is that we're just not good Americans.
"Many will say that 911 changed everything "
you are right, many of us simply haven't been as successful at "moving on" as you have been.
Damned windmills! Keep on tilting!
...in light of...
U.S. strategist to help Kenya presidential challenger November 14, 2007
As opposition candidates kicked off their official campaigns, Raila Odinga, who has a narrow lead in opinion polls, said American pollster Dick Morris had joined his team.
Amen.
Paul also said, “The military-industrial complex, the biased media, the big banks, the Fed, the waterboarders, and the IRS don’t like what we’re doing.
He forgot the neocons!
Repeat after me, he doesn't believe in conspiracies, he doesn't believe in conspiracies, he doesn't believe in conspiracies.
Including the owner of this site.
Good point. Domestic liberals can't stand Paul's small-government positions, which is why a disproportionate amount of the bleating against Paul has always come from the Giuliani/Schwarzenegger wing of the GOP.
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RP has 10.6MM in the bank now. The tea party should be a successful day for him. 2-4 million more in the bank.
That's true. And there's evern more fodder the nutball Paul cult.
Paul also said, The military-industrial complex, the biased media, the big banks, the Fed, the waterboarders, and the IRS dont like what were doing. But every good American is applauding us, and daring to hope for a better future.
Yup, good American's applaud Ron Paul, the rest, well.....
So jmc, are the only good Americans Paul supporters.
Typical cult thought process.
That's paranoid moonbat talk. What a Maroon!"
Of course there's always those paradigms of virtue and free speech here on FR that continue to flaunt their vast knowledge and understanding of mental health.
Let's see, Nomex suit? - check. Gloves? - check. Face mask? - check.
Have fun.
Very well said!
I understand that you, like many others, like Ron Paul on domestic issues, but disagree with his foreign policy. Here’s some food for thought - George W. Bush, over the course of his administration, has shown that he has no loyalty to the ideas of small government, the Constitution, the American people, etc. He’s sold us out so many times; No Child Left Behind, the Patriot Act, Medicare Part D, CAFTA, “comprehensive immigration reform”, the NAU, etc. Most people on this forum seem to recognize that fact. Ron Paul has opposed every one of these measures. So, my question is, what is it about Iraq that makes you think that all of a sudden Bush was doing the right and honorable thing and the Paul is wrong?
A good portion of the Paul-haters are people who will defend that kind of stuff.
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