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1 posted on 12/03/2007 6:36:30 AM PST by steve-b
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To: steve-b

Mark Klein = Hero


2 posted on 12/03/2007 7:00:22 AM PST by SubGeniusX (The People have Unenumerated Rights, The Government does not have Unenumerated Powers!)
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To: steve-b

If you conduct business on public wires, then expect no privacy. Anybody who’s over the age of 6 should know that.

Get PGP and other “cloaking” services like anonymous proxy services and the like, or use public computers if you think you are doing something that you don’t want written about in a public forum.

Sheesh, people need to take responsibility for themselves.


3 posted on 12/03/2007 7:05:39 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: steve-b
EFF.org information pages in relation to AT&T NSA Spyroom

Also see

here for additional info

4 posted on 12/03/2007 7:09:32 AM PST by SubGeniusX (The People have Unenumerated Rights, The Government does not have Unenumerated Powers!)
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To: steve-b

It’s kinda like caller ID....You don’t follow up on those callers. You simply don’t care...and you never do hear what’s being said. The idea that the text of everyone’s phone calls is being logged is an absurdity.


6 posted on 12/03/2007 7:18:05 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: ShadowAce; traviskicks
As a technician for AT&T, Mark Klein says he helped connect a device three years ago that copied onto a government supercomputer every phone call, e-mail and Internet search made through the company's network.

[snip] President Bush denies that. "We're not mining or trolling through the personal lives of millions of innocent Americans," he said. "Our efforts are focused on links to al Qaeda and their known affiliates. The privacy of ordinary Americans is fiercely protected in all our activities."

Only one of those men can be telling the truth.


PING

7 posted on 12/03/2007 7:21:38 AM PST by SubGeniusX (The People have Unenumerated Rights, The Government does not have Unenumerated Powers!)
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Re: the veracity of Mark Klein

We really have to ask ourselves is a device that copies “every phone call, email, and Internet search” to a government computer even possible with the band width currently possible? Wouldn’t such a powerful device, magical in its ability to copy everything to a “supercomputer” be generally known? Does “every” bit of network traffic pass through such a bottleneck that it even CAN be diverted to nefarious study? Or is the internet more decentralized than this scenario and Mark Klein would have us believe?

If such a device existed, would the super-secret, super powerful agency that arranged to have installed it used someone so sworn to secrecy that they have a tooth with cyanide in it to commit suicide before revealing what color was the orange juice they had for breakfast that morning? Or would they rely on just any John Doe without a security clearance to do this highly sensitive job? Is the CIA/NSA/FBI/DHC/RNC so stupid? (Well the RNC might be.)

Why would we believe Mark Klein?

Why should we?


14 posted on 12/03/2007 7:41:57 AM PST by Swordmaker (Entered and posted entirely with my iPhone.)
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18 posted on 12/03/2007 8:03:30 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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...a device three years ago that copied onto a government supercomputer every phone call, e-mail and Internet search made through the company's network.

That's some storage system they have. Petabytes wouldn't cover a fraction of it.

19 posted on 12/03/2007 8:04:51 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: steve-b

Old news, from May 2006

Wonder why it’s being rehashed now.

(He’s also an ex-employee - anyone know if the parting w/ AT&T was mutual?)


23 posted on 12/03/2007 10:02:28 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: steve-b

bmflr

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Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts
Posted on 11/15/2007 3:43:17 AM PST by Kevmo


25 posted on 12/03/2007 10:36:17 AM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: steve-b

I have a very close relative who is involved with intel gathering. Some of what the post says is true. While I am not privy to secrets, I’m told they don’t store them for any length of time, everything is passed through filters. They are searching for words, phrases, hints, etc of impending attacks, and other nefarious actions that would harm our Country.

If something happened that we could have prevented, and we found out it could have been prevented by using technological means, I would be among the first to raise hell about it. Who wouldn’t?

I ain’t got nuttin’ to hide, and if I did, I would hide it!


28 posted on 12/03/2007 11:35:32 AM PST by papasmurf (Now I lay me down to sleep, and Pray for the RINO's huge defeat.)
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To: steve-b
Only one of those men can be telling the truth.

Not so.

29 posted on 12/03/2007 11:40:04 AM PST by r9etb
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