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Huckabee Hedges on Aid for Illegals (Must read)
ABC News ^ | December 2, 2007 | Teddy Davis

Posted on 12/02/2007 12:10:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

New Iowa Leader Criticized by for Indecision on Federal Student Aid.

Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor who backed in-state tuition for the children of illegal immigrants, hedged Sunday on whether illegal immigrants who have gone to school in the United States should become eligible for federal student aid such as Pell grants and subsidized federal student loans.

"I'm not sure that I would support that," Huckabee told ABC News, "it was a different program in Arkansas."

Huckabee's failure to take a clear position on federal student aid while appearing on ABC News' "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" drew swift rebukes from two Republican rivals.

"Gov. Romney does not support providing federal taxpayer-funded student aid intended for legal residents going to illegal immigrants," Romney spokesman Kevin Madden told ABC News. "Mike Huckabee's position [in Arkansas] that taxpayer dollars meant for students who are legal residents should also be made available to illegal immigrants puts him squarely at odds with the American taxpayer."

Echoing a line that Romney used against Huckabee in last week's CNN/YouTube debate, Madden added, "Mike Huckabee needs to understand that it's not his money. It's the taxpayers' money."

Huckabee's indecision on federal student aid was also criticized by the campaign of former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson.

"Children who are born in this country are U.S. citizens and entitled to the privileges of citizenship," said Thompson spokeswoman Karen Hanretty. "Those in our country illegally are not. It's that simple."

Huckabee appeared on "This Week" on the same day that a highly respected poll showed him as the new Republican leader in Iowa.

Huckabee leads the GOP field with 29 percent support, according to a Des Moines Register poll released Sunday. Romney has 24 percent, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani has 13 percent, and Thompson has 9 percent. The Iowa Republican Caucuses take place on Jan. 3.

In-state tuition for illegal immigrants was never enacted in Arkansas. But Huckabee's rivals believe that his momentum in Iowa can be stopped once his views on public benefits for the children of illegal immigrants become more widely known.

Asked on "This Week" about his Arkansas record, the former Baptist minister said, "You don't punish a child because a parent committed a crime, or committed a sin, you just don't do it."

Huckabee did not rule out that his principle might extend to the federal level.

He suggested, however, that he might view state and federal benefit questions differently.

"It's the difference between being punished and being rewarded," said Huckabee. ". . . the point in Arkansas was, we had kids who had been in our schools, by law. And to simply shut them out of any additional educational advancement, to me, seemed not only in their worst interests, but ours, as well as the state's."


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To: JCEccles

I’m leaning towards Romney. I’m convinced that he’s the best.


61 posted on 12/02/2007 1:22:19 PM PST by RedCobra
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To: stephenjohnbanker

That would make a great shockwave file spoof.


62 posted on 12/02/2007 1:22:41 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Eddie01
I hope not, Fred needs to let Huck keep whacking on Mitt and Rudy for a bit...

Huck has been a gift that Fred has gladly accepted...

63 posted on 12/02/2007 1:23:07 PM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: Brices Crossroads
Exactly...

Huck just enhanced the plan. Fred has to be happy he can leave some of that money in the back as the three CINO amigos try and out conservative each other. Save Fred money and gives him plenty of ammo for his assault in the end.

64 posted on 12/02/2007 1:28:00 PM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: RedCobra

“I’m leaning towards Romney. I’m convinced that he’s the best”

Ever live in Massachusetts??


65 posted on 12/02/2007 1:28:03 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Sola Veritas

Why is reporting on his comments an ‘attack’?

By your approach, no candidate could oppose any other candidate’s positions.


66 posted on 12/02/2007 1:32:40 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Mitt is the Kama Sutra of Republican politics. Huckabee is Sandra Day O'Connor.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Huckster will be exposed for the self-serving politican he really is IF he accepts a VP slot under Giuliani..

"100 % PRO-LIFE HUCKABEE. YES! Abortion is murder—bald, blunt, horrific killing. There is no other definition for “abortion.” (Distribution Source : ArriveNet Editorials) Date : Sunday - November 18, 2007

J. Grant Swank, Jr. (ArriveNet Editorials - Nov 18, 2007) -- The United States cannot afford to have any person in the Oval Office who is the least bit in favor of murder.

Abortion is murder—bald, blunt, horrific killing. There is no other definition for “abortion.”

Therefore, those who endorse abortion in any form are abhorrent. America cannot tolerate leadership in any party who would slay the defenseless unborn.

Mike Huckabee has come out as 100% pro-life. Hear him out per AP:

"’It's the logic of the Civil War,’ Huckabee said Sunday, comparing abortion rights to slavery. ‘If morality is the point here, and if it's right or wrong, not just a political question, then you can't have 50 different versions of what's right and what's wrong.’

"’For those of us for whom this is a moral question, you can't simply have 50 different versions of what's right,’ he said in a broadcast interview.

“The former Arkansas governor, who has drawn within striking distance of Mitt Romney in Iowa's leadoff presidential caucuses, said he was taken aback by the National Right to Life Committee's recent endorsement of Fred Thompson, the ex-Tennessee senator.

"’But my surprise was nothing compared to the surprise of people across America who had been faithful supporters of right to life,’ said Huckabee, who is challenging Thompson's claim that he is the most reliable candidate in the GOP field.

"’Fred's never had a 100 percent record on right to life in his Senate career. The records reflect that. And he doesn't support the human life amendment which is most amazing because that's been a part of the Republican platform since 1980,’ Huckabee said.”

Thompson never supported the human life amendment? Just plain terrible. Thank you, Mike, for informing us of that. It is strategic.

When it comes to killing womb children, there is no need for lengthy treatises. One is either for killing them or not. Huckabee is against killing them—on any level, at any time, and so forth."

We'll see about that, Mike.

67 posted on 12/02/2007 1:33:30 PM PST by spectre (spectre's wife (It's Illegal immigration, Stupid)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Huckabee and Rudy are pretty much RINOs on the border/immigration/sanctuary issues.


68 posted on 12/02/2007 1:41:10 PM PST by citizen ("Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." Benjamin Franklin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Unintentional slip of the tongue?

Asked on "This Week" about his Arkansas record, the former Baptist minister said, "You don't punish a child because a parent committed a crime, or committed a sin, you just don't do it."

I've never said that an illegal immigrant is a sinner and that I am not. On the contrary, I believe ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

But it disturbs me to see "sin" used to describe crime. It seems to me Huckabee is saying that those of us who oppose illegal immigration are holier-than-thou types lacking compassion and caring on the poor "sinners" coming across the border.

I think this is Huckabee's REAL position - that he believes I'm a hate-filled racist who views illegal immigrants as dirty 'sinners' - not someone who has lived overseas much of his life, who is well aware of the poverty in other countries, and who doesn't want to drive down American wages and standard of living by importing that poverty here with open borders.

I would bet Huckabee is one of those who thinks illegal immigrants are like the Baby Jesus...and I'm certain he believes HIS compassion should drive spending with MY money.

That is why I call him the O'Connor of politics - he'll follow his feelings rather than the law, and his position on any future policy will be based on feeling good about himself rather than mean things like the Constitution.

69 posted on 12/02/2007 1:43:41 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Mitt is the Kama Sutra of Republican politics. Huckabee is Sandra Day O'Connor.)
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To: Eddie01

For anyone who ever wondered about the adage that politics is Hollywood for the unattractive, just look at Huckabee. In fact, the only person I can think of ever in politics who is worse looking than Huckabee is former Washington State governor Mike Lowry.


70 posted on 12/02/2007 1:43:59 PM PST by E. Cartman (Picking Bush-41 to be veep was Ronald Reagan's single biggest mistake...EVER.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“Maybe they are Wiccans : ) “

Be nice. Those Wiccans make some neat patio furniture. :)


71 posted on 12/02/2007 1:49:25 PM PST by papasmurf (Now I lay me down to sleep, and Pray for the RINO's huge defeat.)
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To: E. Cartman

A couple of others should come to mind.

72 posted on 12/02/2007 1:50:36 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: papasmurf

: )


73 posted on 12/02/2007 1:50:43 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Sola Veritas
"Thompson supporters have been saying that the MSM is behind Huckabee getting elected."

Correction...

Thompson supporters have been saying that the MSM is behind Huckabee getting elected up in the polls.

The media is manipulating the polls via their coverage, and the light in which they present their articles, of a particular candidate.

They disdain FRed. They are hell bent on "teaching hin a lesson", cause he won't bow down and kiss their slimy butts.

Have no doubt about it, the media want julieani. You can take that to the bank.
74 posted on 12/02/2007 1:55:16 PM PST by papasmurf (Now I lay me down to sleep, and Pray for the RINO's huge defeat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Ever live in Massachusetts?

It's telling that Mitt had no chance of getting reelected in Massachusetts.

Too "stingy" and too conservative.

75 posted on 12/02/2007 1:57:11 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles

Not germain...what is is.


76 posted on 12/02/2007 1:58:50 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Eddie01
Thank you! I appreciate the FIX!

FRED THOMPSON - HATED BY THE MSM - 2ND AMENDMENT ADVOCATE - INCREASE THE SIZE OF OUR MILITARY MIGHT - SOCIAL SECURITY REFORM - TAX REFORM - ADVOCATE TO CONTROL OUR BORDERS - ONLY TRUE CONSERVATIVE - PING!

77 posted on 12/02/2007 1:59:53 PM PST by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN "LAZY " GRANDMA FREEPER. A LOYAL and DEDICATED FredHEAD!)
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To: JCEccles

“It’s telling that Mitt had no chance of getting reelected in Massachusetts.

Too “stingy” and too conservative.”


Romney has never been a conservative. Do we really have to start with all of the proof again?


78 posted on 12/02/2007 2:06:46 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

I think I’ve posted this a hundred times before, and here’s another:

A mandate for medical insurance is NOT, I repeat NOT, socilaized medicine. It is not HillaryCare or EdwardsCare style mandated single payer coverage.

This country has two choices - either repeal the law forcing hospitals and ERs to provide service to all regardless of ability to pay, or mandate insurance. Plain and simple.

Since you don’t like mandated insurance, either you want taxpayers to continue ponying up to pay for those who don’t/can’t pay and get medical care regardless, which is socilaized medicine, or you want to repeal the mandated care law. Which is it ?

Or are you one of those people who can’t think thru the problem and can’t bother to figure out there is one ?


79 posted on 12/02/2007 2:11:33 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Sola Veritas

What is anyone saying about Huckabee that isn’t the truth ?

In his own words from his time as governor he’s supported in-state tuition for illegal aliens, higher taxes, anti-smoking laws, expansion of SCHIP and so on.

Why is anyone pointing that out a problem for you ?


80 posted on 12/02/2007 2:13:46 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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