Former generals, admirals question military gay policy

Stars and Stripes ^ | December 1, 2007 | staff reporter

[Jacquerie]

Only one sea Admiral signed. Homos often end up missing morning muster.

[A.A. Cunningham]

"none is of the stature of Gen. John Shalikashvili"

A legend in his own mind.

[rbg81]

1. 28 retired flags is a drop in the bucket. I’d wager its about 1% of all those retired.
2. About 1/3 of these appear to be medical officers—not combat rated.
3. About 1/2 of these are Brigadier Generals. While that sounds impressive, BGs are often bitter ‘cause they never got that 2nd star. In some ways, that looks worse than a Colonel who never got selected for BG.
4. I don’t see any 4-stars on that list.

[Nextrush]

Shouldn’t General Bendover be on that list?

[PeteB570]

And I say keep it the same.

There is a difference between “don’t ask, don’t tell” and serving openly.

Those who have served in the lower ranks understand that difference.

To those wishing to change it, it’s just an agenda.

[Racehorse]

About 1/3 of these appear to be medical officers—not combat rated.

How does that matter and why?

[sure_fine]

wonder if Hitlary wrote that letter for them to sign

[boomop1]

Gannett owned, shills for the bitch. It will happen if she becomes queen bee.

[btcusn]

I have no doubt that many gays have served honorably.
The big question in my mind is how to maintain good order and discipline if openly gay sailors are on board Navy ships. Open berthing, very tight quarters, shared heads and showers. Or do we create ANOTHER separate setup like we had to do for women?? Just how much room do these people think there is on a Destroyer anyway?
Can also see many lost at sea incidents. Awful dark out there.
Jack

[Dick Vomer]

How many Marines were on that list?......er. Oh none. Nevermind.

We're just to backwards and want to kill things.

[stevem]

“scholarly data show” that 65,000...

Respectfully, scholarly data advanced by whom?

It says right here that "don't ask, don't tell" has been the de facto policy since at least the French and Indian War. I suspect that homosexuals were enlisting or being commissioned when Joshua fought the Battle of Jericho. The thing of it is is I don't see data from these "scholars" regarding the improvement of the military that will ensue when we put a question on the application requesting a designation.

[cgbg]

I see a lot of "NGs" here.

Are we talking about more phony ranks?

They are probably as phony as the figure for the number of "gays" currently serving, and my guess is that most of them are weekend warriors as well.

Why do I get this feeling that the National Guard has certain geographical areas where the commander is a gay recruiter and follows Jesuit homosexual indoctrination and "training" practices?

:-(

[Dick Vomer]

How does that matter and why?

cause they've never served in a FAO that make you have to trust someone with your life. Where little lover's spats could get a unit killed. It just adds another layer of complexity to a combat situation. Do you press charges for calling someone a "f#g" as sexual harassment? So now you add PC speech to ROE in a combat zone.

[Non-Sequitur]

Homos often end up missing morning muster.

And how would you know that?

[rocksblues]

btt

[wintertime]

About 1/3 of these appear to be medical officers—not combat rated.
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Medical officers are more knowledgeable of the medical consequences not only for the gays but for the heterosexual soldier as well.

Gays live a life that puts them in very close physical contact with a very large number of other gays who are often sick with highly communicable diseases that non-gay soldiers can a DO get: tuberculosis, body lice, staff and strep skin infections, flu, pneumonia, meningitis, are merely a few of likely several hundred examples.

To make matters worse, once a gay becomes HIV positive ( which might not be known for quite a long time) his immune system gradually deteriorates. This makes him even more likely to contract one of the above diseases and then carry it back to infect the heterosexual soldiers in his unit.

Remember: HIV people living a highly active homosexual live style are walking petri dishes of diseases that the rest of us can and DO get!

[Jacquerie]

Senior officers are highly skilled executive leaders. They are also to a large extent politicians.

I would place far more value on a survey conducted at the deckplate level, E-4 and below.

[Nextrush]

It certainly is linked to the political season in some way and I think would reflect some change Hillary would make if she is elected.

This is probably the “gay movement” and or Hillary response to the their flunkie (”General” Whatshisname) being outed as a plant in the CNN “debate.”

[wintertime]

How does that matter and why?

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It matters a **lot**!

Please read post #17.