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1 posted on 12/01/2007 5:01:27 PM PST by Jay777
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Rudy WILL blow the GOP Coalition wide apart. The old Mantra of “We’re not as bad as they are” isn’t going to cut it anymore.


2 posted on 12/01/2007 5:05:30 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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FRED THOMPSON IS THE ANTI-RUDY!!!!
3 posted on 12/01/2007 5:05:58 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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Conservatives fear that Rudy would destroy the party. It’s what I’ve been saying for months.

But the party pros, and the country clubbers, and the RINOs had better start fearing it, too.

If the party explodes, they will suffer just as much as we will. They will deserve to suffer. But never mind that. The only way to avoid destroying the party is to nominate someone else. Rudy is simply not acceptable, and never will be acceptable. That’s just the way it is.


4 posted on 12/01/2007 5:08:42 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Fred had the south until Huckabee shot up in the polls taking away the hard core social conservative vote. Now the south may be split enough for Rudy to win. Unless the conservatives unite behind one candidate, Rudy will be tough to stop.


5 posted on 12/01/2007 5:08:50 PM PST by Always Right
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A vote for Rudy in a primary is a vote for Hillary in the General.


6 posted on 12/01/2007 5:09:20 PM PST by SUSSA
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Reads like an endorsement for Romney. The best advice would be to ignore, Rudy, Romney and Huck all together. Their liberal.

Vote Hunter, Thompson or Paul.


7 posted on 12/01/2007 5:09:26 PM PST by rineaux (How dare you, how dare you question the Clinton's wrecked record.)
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"What conservatives have to realize is that Giuliani is now relying on Mike Huckabee to take his most viable opponent, Mitt Romney, down in Iowa, and that anyone voting for him there in the caucuses will be inadvertently, and ironically, helping the New Yorker," David A. Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union, said earlier this week in a surprise endorsement of Mr. Romney.

Two things to make clear:

(1) David Keene endorsed Willard as an individual. The ACU has not yet endorsed anyone.

(2) David Keene also endorsed Arlen Spector (ACU 47%) over Pat Toomey (ACU 97%) in 2004.

9 posted on 12/01/2007 5:13:42 PM PST by Petronski (Reject the liberal troika: romney, giuliani, mccain)
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Gov.Huckabee has a legitimate claim on the attachments of Pro-Family and Fair Trade enthusiasts. Except that his pro-illegal alien stance is anti-Fair Trade.

Gov. Romney has a better position on immigration control, and, if he can be believed, now stands with the Pro-Family movement. On trade he seems to be with the Free Trade advocates.

Interesting match-up. I'd be pleased if either Romney would sincerely advocate for Fair Trade/'Economic Patriotism' or Huckabee would sincerely advocate for strong immigration control.

10 posted on 12/01/2007 5:18:02 PM PST by ProCivitas (Duncan Hunter = Pro-Family + Fair Trade = Pro-America. www.gohunter08.com)
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We've got a man with the qualifications, the energy, and the issues in... Duncan Hunter. He is the absolute best on issues, suitability for the office, qualifications, and past accomplishments. Bar none. All it will take is one big endorsement.

Fred is good, too. The two of them on the same ticket would be an unbeatable combo.

11 posted on 12/01/2007 5:18:27 PM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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Friday Rush Limbaugh spoke for the conservative movement when he revealed his support for Fred Thompson.


14 posted on 12/01/2007 5:24:17 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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If only they’d rally behind Hunter...


15 posted on 12/01/2007 5:24:30 PM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
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Another way to view this is that the bluest of the blue states, and a few purples, might nominate a candidate (Rudy) that the red states would have to elect, with little or no help from blue states. And Rudy could well lose some red states such as Arkansas, Indiana, or Virginia among others.

It’s past time that Rudy, McCain and Huckabee are called out, every day, on their positions on illegal aliens, positions that are at odds with about 70% of Republicans, or more. All three would favor amnesty, and who can believe a word they say about closing the border or interior enforcement? Jorge redux with those three.

Seems it has to be Romney or Thompson. I’d be happy with either.


20 posted on 12/01/2007 5:55:13 PM PST by Will88
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"What conservatives have to realize is that Giuliani is now relying on Mike Huckabee to take his most viable opponent, Mitt Romney, down in Iowa, and that anyone voting for him there in the caucuses will be inadvertently, and ironically, helping the New Yorker," David A. Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union, said earlier this week in a surprise endorsement of Mr. Romney.

The Huckster is a cruel DBM joke.

23 posted on 12/01/2007 5:59:53 PM PST by FreeReign
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Bishop Willard and the rest of the
seven dwarves need to get off the stage.

Go Fred.


30 posted on 12/01/2007 6:08:57 PM PST by riored
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I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights, Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing,” he responded. Source: CNN.com, “Inside Politics” Dec 2, 1999 http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Rudy_Giuliani_Abortion.htm

ANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES (November 14, 2006)

RUDY GIULIANI (R), FORMER MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY: I'm pro- choice. I'm pro-gay rights.

KING: Giuliani supports a woman's right to an abortion, and back in 1999, he opposed a federal ban on late-term abortions.

GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.

KING: Immigration could be another presidential landmine. Back in 1996, Mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants.

JEFFREY: He took the side of illegal immigrants in New York City against the Republican Congress.

KING: Giuliani opposes same-sex marriage but as mayor, he supported civil unions and extending health and other benefits to gay couples. He also supported the assault weapons ban and other gun control measures opposed by the National Rifle Association.

GIULIANI: I'm in favor of gun control. I'm pro-choice.

Republican Big-Wigs Support Pro-Abortion Event in NY

Pro-abortion Governor George Pataki and New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who also supports unrestricted abortion, are co-chairs of the 2000 Choice Award Presentation to be held on May 30 at the St. Regis Hotel in New York City. The event is sponsored by the Republican Pro-Choice Coalition, a group that is campaigning for the removal of the pro-life plank from the Republican National Platform.


http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200503010743.asp

While he was the “Republican Mayor” of New York City he appointed more than 60 men and women to the Civil, Criminal, and Family Court benchs. In all of those judicial appointment only two were Republican.

All of his other judical appointments were either registered Liberals or registered Democrats. As the “Republican Mayor” he had appointment power over more than 70 full commissioners in more than 50 City agencies, yet at no time during his administration did REPUBLICANS account for more than 10% of those appointments.

He even appointed Chuck Schumers wife as the City’s Department of Transportation Commissioner.


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http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/9054.html

“And even as we grieve for those who lost their lives, and our hearts and prayers go out to the victims and their loved ones, we may be able to find some sort of meaning in this tragedy by using it as a catalyst to revive national gun control efforts.”
Rudolph Giuliani

At the first Republican debate in May, Giuliani was alone among the GOP candidates in offering a less-than-robust affirmation when asked whether it would be a good day if the Supreme Court overturned the Roe v. Wade ruling.

"It would be OK," Giuliani said. "It would be OK to repeal it."

But, he added: "It would be OK also if a strict constructionist viewed it as precedent" and kept the law intact.


38 posted on 12/01/2007 6:22:53 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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Bump.

Huckabee can't win the nomination. He can only boost Giuliani's chances of winning it.

48 posted on 12/01/2007 6:47:27 PM PST by JCEccles
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"What conservatives have to realize is that Giuliani is now relying on Mike Huckabee to take his most viable opponent, Mitt Romney, down in Iowa, and that anyone voting for him there in the caucuses will be inadvertently, and ironically, helping the New Yorker," David A. Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union, said earlier this week in a surprise endorsement of Mr. Romney.

Cold, bold, incisive commentary from a "Keene" mind.

53 posted on 12/01/2007 6:57:16 PM PST by JCEccles
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Rudy Panic set in for many Republicans this week

Dang did I miss another meeting? :)

55 posted on 12/01/2007 7:02:12 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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This is some of the silliest analysis I've read so far on the GOP nomination race.

Gee, it's either Rudy or Romney...Iowa matters...and, Fred isn't in the hunt.

I'm wonderin' who paid these guys to write this drivel. Oh yeah, it was the Romney campaign:)

62 posted on 12/01/2007 7:33:11 PM PST by Mariner
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Rudy would be a disaster for the Party.

The Party has been moving to the left for a while now. However, if you want to destroy the 'conservative identity' of the Republican Party--

a LIBERAL LIKE RUDY IS THE RIGHT MAN AT THE RIGHT TIME!!!!

68 posted on 12/01/2007 7:47:03 PM PST by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will ENERGIZE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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