After capture by Border Patrol, immigrant gives birth

The Brownsville Herald ^ | November 30, 2007 | Kevin Sieff

[SwinneySwitch]

An undocumented immigrant went into labor after being apprehended by Border Patrol officials Thursday evening.

The woman, whose name, age and nationality are unknown, was caught at about 5:30 p.m. after cross-ing the Rio Grande into east Brownsville. She told Border Patrol agents that she needed medical attention and was taken to Valley Baptist Medical Center-Brownsville, where she went into labor.

Stationed outside the woman’s hospital room was Border Patrol Agent Ortiz, who refused to give his first name.

The sound of her baby’s heartbeat — amplified by an ultrasound — could be heard through the door of her hospital room.

“I know that sound,” Ortiz said. “I heard it when I had my two children.”

Border Patrol officials did not comment on what will happen to the woman and her child after they are released from the hospital. According to the 14th Amendment of the Constitution, any person born on American soil is a United States citizen.

“Our primary goal was to get her medical attention,” said Oscar Saldaña, spokesman with the U.S. Cus-toms and Border Protection’s Rio Grande Valley Sector.

In September, after an undocumented immigrant gave birth on the banks of the Rio Grande, the woman and her child were discharged from the hospital without being taken into custody by the Border Patrol, according to Brownsville Herald archives.

[mtbopfuyn]

Ca-ching!

[Tennessee Nana]

How convenient....

[Travis McGee]

3AngelaD posted it on another thread and I thought it was a great analogy.

[KittyKares]

All you guys out there are now responsible for the baby’s expenses. Rejoice, you’re kind of like new step-dads. Bring out the cigars!

[Travis McGee]

Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

The specific intent of the "jurisdiction thereof" was to exclude children born to diplomats and others not "subject to the jurisdiction thereof."

The current misuse of the 14th amd has never been decided by SCOTUS, it's merely an administrative (mis)ruling by congress.

[dynachrome]

Thanks. I have kept a copy and if I use I will attribute it.

[Travis McGee]

That’s how you look at it—backwards. I see it that because they are NOT subject to our jurisdiction, we can deport them back to the country that does have jurisdiction....their home country. If they were under our jurisdiction, we couldn’t just toss them out administratively, but would have to charge them with some US crime and keep them here. We don’t, we can just put them on an airplane and say adios, because they are NOT subject to our jurisdiction.

[doc1019]

Thanks.

[Travis McGee]

Often and widely I hope!

[PLMerite]

“I guess she dropped anchor.”

There’s a SNL skit right there...

[longtermmemmory]

ok folks back to the basics.

sign...

in 1996 congress passed an immigration reform act. Among other things, the act ELIMINATED the commonly cited “anchor baby”. They do not exist by mere birth any more. Keep in mind the child is still a citizen, HOWEVER THE CHILD DOES NOT ANCHOR the residency of the illegal alien parent.

CUSTODY FOLLOWS THE PARENTS NOT THE CHILD.

Thus in this case, when the mother is deported the child goes back WITH THE MOTHER.

ALSO VERY IMPORTANT. Children born of a US PARENT OUTSIDE THE USA can only claim birthright citizenship IF THE US PARENT LIVED IN THE USA FOR AT LEAST 10 YEARS. (all infor from http://www.uscis.gov .

So while the DBM may try and get everyone all hyper silly, this is not so aggonizing as the MSM would have us think.

[ruination]

I’m sorry, but aliens who are in the United States are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. Else, how could we deport them?

That's sarcasm, right?

[Hunterite]

“Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, AND SUBJECT TO THE JURISTICTION THEREOF, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

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http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Jun-04-Sun-2006/opinion/7582766.html

“Judges and juries and presidents and lawmakers could begin tomorrow, in good conscience, to rule that the phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” means there is no automatic citizenship for a baby born to an illegal alien who willfully evaded the jurisdiction of American immigration laws.”

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Those who continue to lobby for cheap labor are soul-less, manipulative, evil. They have no place in the Republican Party.

[Redcloak]

It’s just that when I read the title, I had a rather pornographic image pop into my head of an anchor, chain and all, popping out of her nether regions and hitting the ground with a thud.

(OK... I guess you had to be there.)

[Hunterite]

I’m sorry, but aliens who are in the United States are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. Else, how could we deport them?

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They avoid taxation. They can’t register identification or it is false documentation. Illegals aren’t subject to any juristiction, including the state they reside in.

Most (if not all) illegals are subjected to the juristiction of their parent country (see Mexican government involvement in the affairs of the 2 jailed border agents). If the drug runner in this situation was subjected to American law, under American juristiction then the Mexican government wouldn’t be involved.

[WestSylvanian]

The brown-headed cowbird does the same thing. I’ve watched them eye the nest of the much smaller song sparrow. When the sparrow’s back is turned, the cowbird drops its egg in the nest. The song sparrows’s egg either doesn’t hatch or the nestling isn’t strong enough to compete with the cowbird chick. Next thing you see is a song sparrow trying to feed the large, noisy, demanding, cowbird fledgling that is following him all around the yard. It’s pitiful.

[Travis McGee]

I had no idea of this parasitic parenting behavior before today, when 3angelaD posted it.

Amazing, and it’s exactly what Mexico is doing on a national level.

[Reeses]

Illegal aliens aren't supposed to pay US taxes or be able to sue Americans in US courts so they aren't under US jurisdiction. But it isn't the 14th Amendment that gives their babies US citizenship, it's the Civil Rights Act of 1866. The Democrat President vetoed the act but... "The Republicans in congress overrode the presidential veto on April 9, 1866. The act declared that all persons born in the United States were citizens, without regard to race, color, or previous condition — excluding Indians not taxed."

It might be argued many illegals are Indians not taxed.

[End Times Crusader]

“no plausible distinction with respect to Fourteenth Amendment “jurisdiction” can be drawn between resident aliens whose entry into the United States was lawful, and resident aliens whose entry was unlawful” - U.S.C., Plyler vs. Doe

[Travis McGee]

This was decided in a 19th century context by congress, and can be un-decided at any time they so choose.

Article 3 Section 2:

In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.