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Canadians should brace for coldest winter in almost 15 years: forecast
The Canadian Press ^ | November 30, 2007 | Michael Oliveira

Posted on 11/30/2007 1:55:35 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA

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To: BluH2o

When I moved from Saskatchewan to the Boston area in the mid-70s, someone saw the block heater cord dangling out the front of my car and thought I had an electric car.


61 posted on 11/30/2007 3:13:26 PM PST by AZLiberty (President Fred -- I like the sound of it.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I got stuck in an 18-inch snowstorm up on Sunwapta Pass in the Canadian Rockies one year.

In August.

I kid you not.

62 posted on 11/30/2007 3:14:50 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: scan59

Some things I remember about that storm. Uncle lives just outside Ottawa and he used a blow torch to make toast for his breakfast . His daughter lived in Ottawa and she called wanting to know how she could heat soup for the kids. Uncle asked her how she heated her family room? Wood burning stove. Well he said , Put the pot on the stove!

There was an article in the Ottawa paper that told the story of how sump pumps failed to keep basements dry and people who used 5 gal. pails to take out the water, but then complained of not being able to flush their toilets.:)

The ice did bend and break a lot of trees. If you look in the bush you can still see the damage.


63 posted on 11/30/2007 3:15:44 PM PST by Snowyman
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
They should invite the pompous windbag Algore up for a week. I’d like to see 300 pounds moving down the ice...

Especially now that curling is an Olympic event. Canada needs a new stone.

64 posted on 11/30/2007 3:23:58 PM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: Centurion2000

Same as usual here in iowa. Leaves fall later than they used to 25-40 years ago. Snow comes later than it used to 25-40 years ago. Mild winters. But the summers seem a bit mild too, compared to the old days. We’re about to get an ice storm this weekend, but it’s supposed to be all melted in a few days.


65 posted on 11/30/2007 3:25:34 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Snowyman

It’s amazing how dependant people are on the “modern conveniences”. We lived in a log cabin, with no electricity for a while — hauled in snow to melt on top of the wood stove for washing water & used a privy (no flushing required).


66 posted on 11/30/2007 3:26:49 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

God has a great since of humor.


67 posted on 11/30/2007 3:28:23 PM PST by ryan71
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To: Justa
So with that seeming to confirm the solar minimum then I'd say it's gonna be a cold winter everywhere.

We have been in a solar minimum for quite a while. Solar cycle 24 is late in starting the suns surface activity phase. There is also a significant delay between major climate change and solar activity. Most sunlight energy enters the world oceans and it can take awhile for that energy or lack of energy to manifest itself as El Nino and La Nina patterns. The La Nina is beginning. Recent research shows that lack of solar flux, which is occurring in real time during this prolonged inactive solar surface period, allows more cosmic radiation to enter the Earths atmosphere. That leads to greater cloud formation. So look for a cold and wet winter. Major storms. Next summer will be mild. Next winter looks to be cold also.

68 posted on 11/30/2007 3:59:13 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Cicero

From what I heard, the month of December will be cold but the movement of the jet stream being held to the North will give us a mild winter in the NE United States from January -March


69 posted on 11/30/2007 4:09:40 PM PST by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
Nah. The $10.00 drop in crude is what bashed natty today -- the mkt has for months known that we've natgas out the wazoo, but the price BTU differential can between crude product & natty can only go out so wide for so long.

Oddly, this 'cold weather'/'big drop' event probably will have a tendency to stabilise natgas for a while (well, until the next cold front hits NYC, anyway.)

;^)

70 posted on 11/30/2007 4:13:43 PM PST by SAJ
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To: Renegade; Cicero
You might be right about that. I notice that the article says parts of S.W. Ontario wouldn’t be getting the cold — that’s about the same latitude as Massachusetts.
71 posted on 11/30/2007 4:31:17 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: fanfan; All
Earlier this year:


Farmers' Almanac 2007-2008 Weather Outlook for Canadia



72 posted on 11/30/2007 4:32:46 PM PST by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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To: BlazingArizona

I was thinking more along the lines of skates. Fatboy on skates would be something to see. Wonder if his ankles could take the strain ?


73 posted on 11/30/2007 4:51:03 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: Cicero

I don’t care if it’s cold, I just don’t want a ton of snow! We have a new deck to build!


74 posted on 11/30/2007 5:00:20 PM PST by SuziQ (`)
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To: Snowyman
Some things I remember about that storm. Uncle lives just outside Ottawa and he used a blow torch to make toast for his breakfast . His daughter lived in Ottawa and she called wanting to know how she could heat soup for the kids. Uncle asked her how she heated her family room? Wood burning stove. Well he said , Put the pot on the stove!

I was worried that the septic pumping tank couldn't hold very much, so we used a bucket, and managed the toilet use carefully. We drilled a hole in the ice to bring up water to flush with, after we found out how little water there is in an average bucket of snow.

We had a wood insert, which would hold one medium sized pot. We boiled water for tea, and spaghetti, soup and stew. We used the BBQ, a lot. We used the ice shack battery to power some halogen puck lights.

Time is forgiving, isn't it. It almost sounds like fun, now.

I haven't thought about that week, for years.

The 10 year anniversary is coming in January.

75 posted on 11/30/2007 5:00:22 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: justa-hairyape
Most sunlight energy enters the world oceans and it can take awhile for that energy or lack of energy to manifest itself

May I make a suggestion?

That would be an amazing tag line.

Sometimes, if you just explain things clearly, people get it, and the repetition of a tag line helps to reinforce the idea.

:-)

76 posted on 11/30/2007 5:11:33 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: backhoe

Great example!

Guess what?
We are going to have weather this winter.


77 posted on 11/30/2007 5:15:28 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

The coldest I can remember being on that Island I grew up on was one winter in the sixties, during an ice storm.

Since power came from the mainland across about five miles of marsh- via overhead lines and underwater cables, power outages were fairly common. Usually some idiot in a boat would ignore the “cable crossing- Do Not Anchor!” signs, drop his anchor and snag a cable, killing power for a while. We had kerosene lamps and lanterns, and since the well was Artesian, during mild weather losing electricity wasn’t a big deal.

During cold weather it was more of a problem- the boiler was oil-fired, but used electricity to light the burner and circulate hot water. The house had been built as a “beach cottage”- meaning the original owner only lived there in the summer, so it had a fireplace, and ports for woodburning stoves in the kitchen and dining room— but those were long gone. The range was electric- we were modern.

Well, the ice formed, power went out, and hours passed. Naturally, the house grew cold, and we bundled up. Slept under LL Bean Trader Bay wool blankets.

Next day, power was still off, and it was getting so cold the dog & cat were sleeping together.

All this time, the fireplace was sitting there, stone cold- one of my Mom’s quirks- and she was a fine woman, but a little nutty in some ways- was a deathly fear of setting the house afire.

That’s why we never had used it, all my growing-up years there.

Dad looked at the dog & cat— looked at us, huddled up inside blankets, blowing fog inside the house, said “The Hell with it, I’m building a fire!”

And so he did- the house didn’t burn, Mom, after stewing and fretting a while, drew near the fire, and we all warmed up.

And power came back about two days later. That fireplace got used every winter, after that.


78 posted on 12/01/2007 5:03:32 AM PST by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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To: backhoe

That’s a great story Backhoe.

When we moved into our place, in ‘95, at the beginning of January, the previous owner told us that the fireplace worked just fine.

That first night, tired of unpacking, we decided to light it up. It was a very cold night.

The chimney was too short, and the house filled with smoke. We had to open all the doors and windows just to breath. And we froze.
LOL.


79 posted on 12/01/2007 7:56:14 AM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan; GMMAC; Catholic Canadian; xcamel; DaveLoneRanger; Baynative; calcowgirl; sourcery; Clive; ..

ping


80 posted on 12/01/2007 11:32:46 AM PST by Reform Canada (Kyoto=>More Unemployment=>More Poverty=>More Homeless=>More Crime=>More Rape & Murder)
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