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Mike Huckabee is not backing off. (re children of illegal immigrants)
Washington Post The Trail Blog ^ | 11/29/2007 | David S. Broder

Posted on 11/29/2007 6:55:31 PM PST by dano1

Huckabee has been criticized by Mitt Romney and others in the GOP presidential race for supporting legislation in Arkansas that would have made all youngsters who graduate from state high schools eligible to compete for college scholarships, no matter what the legal status of their parents.

With Norris citing examples of children of illegal immigrants he has helped educate through his foundation, Huckabee declared that "my soul will not let me" compromise on that stand--despite the bill's rejection in his state senate.

The former governor, who has risen to a challenging position in Iowa, also renewed his feud with the Club for Growth, which has criticized his record on taxes. "If Ronald Reagan were on the ballot today, the Club for Growth would be running ads against him," Huckabee said, "because he raised taxes in California. He did what all governors have to do. He balanced the budget."

Huckabee told the reporters that he is the Republican best equipped to run against Hillary Clinton because "I beat the Clinton machine four times in Arkansas," where it is even more deeply entrenched than it is nationally.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderwhatborder; hispandering; huckabee; huckaspam; ilovetaxes; immigrantlist; immigration
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source: RedState | October 2007 | radicalconservative

Where does Huckabee really stand on the issue of illegal immigration? At first glance of all the chatter, some of the news stories, and the editorials out there floating around, one would believe that Huckabee is, not only soft on illegal immigration, but actually, farther to the left of the issue than our current President. After reading all of the stories out there and listening to the facts in the case against Huckabee, I was beginning to have some serious doubts about the sincerity of this candidate myself, who is admittedly a strong Huckabee supporter.

Case in point is the 119 illegals deported in an Arkansas raid of a plant in 2005, in which officials, without having properly done their homework, proceeded to deport the illegals leaving their children behind here in the states to be a burden to our already overloaded system.

Also, according to the Arkansas State Constitution, children of all ages, whether legal or illegal are entitled to an education. Huckabee following the logic of the state's Constitution, supported allowing children of the illegals to attend Arkansas colleges at in-state rates. Bear in mind these are not individuals who came here illegally, but rather the offspring of those individuals. Holding said offspring responsible for the sins of the parents is like holding anyone else responsible for some crime committed by their forefathers. This is a preposterous notion, a dangerous road, and completely inconsistent with the ideology of compassionate conservatism.

Now, before anyone goes hysterical here, let me point out that we are not suggesting that illegals, who are definately in violation of the law, be given any form of amnesty, nor is there any promotion of the idea of an open border here. However, as in any crime or act of wrongdoing their are always innocents involved who may become collateral damage. Let's be clear there should be a secure border between the U.S. and its bordering nations, there should be no amnesty, and there should always be consequences for breaking the law, but we must remember to follow the ideology of compassionate conservatism as well. After all our system is a system of checks and balances, and we must not forget that there are two sides to the scales of justice. These are the principles that guide Presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee. These are the principles that should guide every American.

Source can be found at http://mikehuckabeepresident2008.blogspot.com/2005/08/msm-huckabee-right-on-illegal.html

http://www.nwaonline.net/articles/2005/08/13/opinion/18editorial.txt

1 posted on 11/29/2007 6:55:32 PM PST by dano1
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To: dano1
Holding said offspring responsible for the sins of the parents is like holding anyone else responsible for some crime committed by their forefathers.

So how is this different than charging my children out-of-state tuition for the sin of their parents in living and working outside of the state where they wish to send their kids to college?

2 posted on 11/29/2007 7:02:49 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: dano1

I heard Huckabee say during his explanation of the bill he supported would put the illegal on the road to being legal. That sounds like rewarding them with citizenship to me.


3 posted on 11/29/2007 7:05:20 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: Vigilanteman
It isn't any different, but they REFUSE to accept this fact. According to Huckabee and others, ILLEGALS have more rights than U.S. Citizens.

Mr. Huckabee, I refuse to support you and your ongoing efforts to legitimize and legalize ILLEGAL ALIENS. As an evangelical concerned about upholding the rule of law I have only one thing to say to you:

You sir will NOT receive my vote OR my support for your bid to become the president of the United States

4 posted on 11/29/2007 7:07:59 PM PST by Jmouse007
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To: dano1

I don’t want Huckabee to back off until he damages Romney’s numbers enough to allow Thompson an easier win . Thanks Huckster !


5 posted on 11/29/2007 7:08:10 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Unite against Rudy ! - Vote Thompson ! - It's the only way to beat Hillary !)
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To: dano1; Dane
Shift change down at Huckster HQ, Dane-o1?

How do you decide which handle to post these Huckster ads under? Or do they pay you for both IDs?


6 posted on 11/29/2007 7:09:51 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: dano1

Still pushing that liberal liar?


7 posted on 11/29/2007 7:11:58 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Travis McGee

LOL ! I caught that ...hehehe :)


8 posted on 11/29/2007 7:13:38 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Unite against Rudy ! - Vote Thompson ! - It's the only way to beat Hillary !)
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To: dano1

Mike Huckabee is a pro-life Liberal who calls himself a Republican. He’s not my choice for President.


9 posted on 11/29/2007 7:14:30 PM PST by devere
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To: dano1

Once an illegal immigrant “child” is 18 years of age, they are an adult. And they are STILL here illegally. Why do the taxpayers owe them anything?


10 posted on 11/29/2007 7:16:23 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Jmouse007
Agreed. Huckabee governed a conservative state where there was absolutely no excuse to aid and protect illegal aliens.

Guilani has the excuse that he was mayor over a city of immigrants, many of them illegal.

Romney has the excuse that he was governor of an ultraliberal state where illegal immigrants were a protected species.

Huckabee is not only as bad as George Bush on this key issue, he's worse.

11 posted on 11/29/2007 7:18:25 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: dano1; Dane; bray
Wow! A two-fer! How can you go wrong?

A reasoned and pragmatic solution to immigration AND Chuck Norris?

Sign me up!

12 posted on 11/29/2007 7:21:36 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Vigilanteman; dano1
If Guilani offered Mike Huckabee the VP slot, he'd take it in a heartbeat! We'd see how quickly he would sell his own soul to the Pro-choice candidate.

Come on dano..let me hear you say he wouldn't accept the VP slot under Rudy?

sw

13 posted on 11/29/2007 7:23:02 PM PST by spectre (spectre's wife (It's Illegal immigration, Stupid)
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To: All
IMHO, none of the candidates is perfect. However some people believe Huckabee may be the best alternative from among the current GOP front runners. I'll paste some additional information on the children of immigrant issue below.

Huckabee Right About Children Left in Lurch
The Morning News | August 12, 2005

Gov. Mike Huckabee has a definite flair for infuriating people by refusing to adhere to a rigid party line.

That's one of the things we appreciate most about him, although we still have our disagreements.

This talent was most recently displayed when Huckabee weighed in on the recent immigration raid on an Arkadelphia poultry plant.

The raid netted 119 people who were working at the plant and had bought fake IDs from a former worker. Most, if not all, of those arrested in the raid have since been deported.

In a simplistic world of bumper-sticker politics the arrest and deportation of 119 illegal immigrants would be non-controversial. No one -- including the governor -- endorses law-breaking.

But in the real world there are all too often complications. There are added considerations that go beyond the simple formula of "They broke the law so they should be arrested and deported."

In this case there were some 30 complications. About 30 children were left in limbo when one or both of their parents were arrested without warning and removed from the country.

Huckabee thought those children, some of whom are U.S. citizens by birth, deserved more consideration. He went beyond just saying so and directed the state Health Department and the Department of Human Services to provide whatever assistance they can to these children. Huckabee also released $1,000 from his emergency fund to buy food, clothing and even school supplies for the children.

That brought the wrath of the righteous down on the governor. Jim Harris, a spokesman for Huckabee, said the office has been getting calls from as far away as California from people irate over the governor's supposed coddling of illegal residents.

But that's not what this is about. Huckabee has never suggested that those 119 people shouldn't have been arrested and dealt with according to the law. What he has said, and we agree with him here, is that the arrests and deportations could have been better coordinated between federal, state and local agencies and that the interests of the children could and should have been taken into account. There was no urgency, nothing to justify separating these families this way. That's what this is about and to his credit that's what Huckabee, and not his cranky callers, understands.

14 posted on 11/29/2007 7:24:23 PM PST by dano1
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To: dano1

I may not be following something here. Are these anchor babies? Or were they kids who came with their parents illegally? It doesn’t really say, but if they are anchor babies, regardless of rather we think they should be or not, they are citizens and should be treated as such. If they came with their parents illegally, then, as another poster said, they are here illegally and should be sent packing.


15 posted on 11/29/2007 7:27:04 PM PST by tnlibertarian
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To: dano1
Cut and paste...

Do you know how to answer questions?

Or isn't that a part of your job description?

Will he or won't he accept the VP slot under Rudy G. if asked?

sw

17 posted on 11/29/2007 7:28:20 PM PST by spectre (spectre's wife (It's Illegal immigration, Stupid)
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To: Travis McGee
Thank you Travis..good find.

Dano's silence is affirmation.

sw

18 posted on 11/29/2007 7:29:30 PM PST by spectre (spectre's wife (It's Illegal immigration, Stupid)
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To: Neu Pragmatist
I don’t want Huckabee to back off until he damages Romney’s numbers enough to allow Thompson an easier win . Thanks Huckster !

Uh, Huckabee's success has damaged and continues to damage Thompson far more than Romney.

FRedheads seem unable to think clearly.

19 posted on 11/29/2007 7:31:34 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: devere
OK Dane Dan whoever, now I don’t catch every FR post but for Fred Heads wanting to bash the huckster why don’t they point out that looking witty in a 60 minute debate isn’t necessarily an indicator of a solid 4 year presidency. Huckabee creams Fred on improv’d charisma on stage. By Feb 5 Fred may very well be watching from the sidelines. For all the knee jerkers, oops I mean loyalists, on this thing if you’re not up on your current events, ‘06 elections didn’t go so hot. Instead of being greedy a compromise may need to be struck to avoid disaster in ‘08. Huckabee seems to be seducing every MSM hack out there of course it could be just an act till it’s time to go up against her.
20 posted on 11/29/2007 7:31:49 PM PST by samp in mo
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