Posted on 11/29/2007 6:01:30 AM PST by xzins
Most of the hard core, drug trade, illegals already come through tunnels - not over the open border. With over 800 miles of border - plenty of room for more tunnels = In this day of technology, I'd rather the money went to electronic surveillance - much less expensive and better able to detect and apprehend.
"The Wall" is a red-herring
In my discussions with people about electability, it seems that the more informed and steeped in politics the person is, the more likely they are to over-analyze minutiae. They impute to an uninformed electorate the same level of interest and understanding of the issues as they have. They compare candidates in terms of their degrees of conservatism in each tiny aspect--concluding that we need a centrist like Giulani in order to take Ohio and put NY and CA in play.
The big flaw in this thinking, imho, is the assumption that the needed electorate actually knows and understands and analyzes and weighs the details of a candidate's position on each of the issues. The truth is probably much closer to what your D friend expressed. The vast majority of voters go on impressions and emotion, not facts.
Contrast with the Huckster’s open borders rhetoric as exposed by Michelle Malkin on her website.
Have we become so used to postulating, finger pointing, raised voice candidates/politicians that we think someone who talks to use in an even voice, as though we were intelligent enough to understand without being yelled at, - doesn't have 'conviction'?When most other GOP candidates speak, they do it with conviction, but not shrill demagoguery or finger pointing.
I do think that Fred’s detailed position on illegal immigrants is spot-on, comprehensive, and the best of the entire bunch. On the other hand, I think that his position on abortion is infuriatingly inadequate, and while better than Rudy’s, fails to meet the standard of protecting basic human rights throughout the land. His observation that the ultimate goal is both distant and arduous is correct, but that does not diminish its importance. And his ignorance of the very similar issues in the Terry Schiavo case is equally troubling.
Actually, if laws were enforced, most of them would be making license plates.
Carolyn
Make up your freaking mind....
(I maybe giving you too much credit there...)
It’s pretty exasperating to watch that stuff so I just tune it out altogether. I already know who I am going to vote for. FRED THOMPSON... NO MATTER WHAT anyone else says or does... HE IS THE MAN!!
Actually it was Frank Luntz - not exactly a Thompson staffer / sarcasm
In my opinion, one of our most colorful presidents in history used a line that I very much admire and try to adhere to: “Speak softly and carry a big stick”. Now Fred is no Teddy Roosevelt but I have confidence in his judgement and integrity in leading the nation. Fred will get my vote.
Ugh...do y'all keep those sappy phrases on file so you can cut and paste them? See my #59...I think not. Not only does he not have any support to speak of, he's got too much baggage, especially his relationship with Duke Cunningham.
A+Bert ??
This has begun to bother me. We seem to be approaching these candidates with something of an “American Idol” entertainment mentality. If I want entertainment I’ll watch Dennis Kucinich give a speech or hug his wife.
I am independent, leaning toward Republican as time goes by but undecided. Having said that, I have been impressed with how Thompson has put out a number of proposal papers on different issues. We don’t have to agree with him, but at least he has the guts to open his positions up to fair scrutiny. (Unlike Hillary, who, as far as I can tell, doesn’t have any positions.)
luntz is a plant for hildebeast.
LLS
If nothing else..this proves that the Internet is losing the media wars.
I give up!
FRed BUMP!
Baseless accusations and insinuations. All hype no substance. I understand why you like Huckabee. He’s like a Republican Clinton.
So, if Huckabee is right on open borders, why then is he now campaigning as tough in immigration?
And why is he now chastising Fred for not supporting the Human Life Amendment when just a couple of years ago Huckabee was about leaving abortion to the states?
Lying for Jesus maybe?
The conservative support for Huckabee is proof positive that the MSM controls our minds. They ignore Fred, a strong candidate with strong conservative credentials, and push Huckabee, a pro-life, open borders, fiscal liberal with a terrible record who has no chance of winning the general election. People follow the MSM like dogs. It’s sad.
you are a loose cannon trouble maker pal.........you will be short lived
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