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In Praise of 'Thought Competition' (Education)
Wall Street Journal ^ | 28 November 2007 | REBECCA SEGALL-WALLACE

Posted on 11/28/2007 6:09:47 AM PST by shrinkermd

For decades now, psychology and pedagogy researchers have been debating the impact of competition on young people's self-esteem, with those wary of thought competition taking the lead.

"We don't want kids to compete individually, put themselves in vulnerable positions as individuals," explains a leading administrator. "They can compete within teams," explains another. "So the focus is on community building rather than on personal value."

But what about Sam's sense of personal value? Aren't human beings fabulously varied in their gifts and sensibilities? Excellent teamwork can be important, but is it the only admirable achievement? Should any school in the United States prevent broader acknowledgment of a young, creative mathematician?

Mel Levine, a professor at the University of North Carolina and one of the foremost authorities in the country on how children learn, believes the impact of the collaborative education movement has been devastating to an entire generation. When students are rewarded for participation rather than achievement, Dr. Levine suggests, they don't have a strong sense of what they are good at and what they're not. Thus older members of Generation Y might be in for quite a shock when they show up for work at their first jobs. "They expect to be immediate heroes and heroines. They expect a lot of feedback on a daily basis. They expect grade inflation, they expect to be told what a wonderful job they're doing," says Dr. Levine.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: education; publiceducation; publicschools; selfesteem
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This all began with Vicki Stolz and other Adlerians. Their focus on self-esteem was easily understood and quickly accepted without empirical evidence by the educational establishment. The result is an impending disaster when these young people without knowledge of their abilities and disabilities hit the real world.
1 posted on 11/28/2007 6:09:48 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

“We don’t want kids to compete individually, put themselves in vulnerable positions as individuals,” explains a leading administrator. “They can compete within teams,” explains another. “So the focus is on community building rather than on personal value.”

Right because when you apply for a job, you do it with other team members.

The wussification of America continues.


2 posted on 11/28/2007 6:10:45 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: shrinkermd

When students are rewarded for participation rather than achievement, Dr. Levine suggests, they don’t have a strong sense of what they are good at and what they’re not.


Repeat LOUD and OFTEN......................


3 posted on 11/28/2007 6:11:34 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Slapshot68

teamwork is very important after you get the job


4 posted on 11/28/2007 6:14:29 AM PST by ari-freedom (I don't want Huckabee or Applebee...give me someone from Tennessee!)
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To: PeterPrinciple

“When students are rewarded for participation rather than achievement, Dr. Levine suggests, they don’t have a strong sense of what they are good at and what they’re not.”

They recently began a fall soccer program in my area that competes with the one they already have in the spring...but with no scoring, just for “fun.” My son wanted to play but I won’t let him until the spring one. I know I’m probably being a fuddy duddy but the idea of playing a soccer game without keeping score is asinine. What’s he learning? He already knows how to play...but to what end?


5 posted on 11/28/2007 6:14:48 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: PeterPrinciple
When students are rewarded for participation...

Ah yes, the participation award, or as my child calls it, the "thanks for showing up" award.

6 posted on 11/28/2007 6:15:42 AM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Slapshot68

That quote reached out of the paper and slapped me -

this educrat is a SOCIALIST, and is attempting to indoctrinate kids into the same destructive mindset.


7 posted on 11/28/2007 6:15:44 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: ari-freedom

“teamwork is very important after you get the job”

Of course it is. But that wasn’t my point. You engage in rigorous competition to secure employment. Kids growing up need to become accustomed to that sort of competition.


8 posted on 11/28/2007 6:15:59 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: shrinkermd
I find this article to be patently absurd, especially when the fight for individual success is so high today. Education pundits can talk theory all they want, but look at the race for top-tier college admissions and tell me that American public education is some feel-good pow-wow.

Maybe y'all have some feel-good, hippie-enclave schools in your area, but my public education was always about excelling academically. And this was in Massachusetts, the liberal capital of the world.

Chicken little topic, chicken little article.
9 posted on 11/28/2007 6:21:48 AM PST by SomeReasonableDude (Back it up.)
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To: Slapshot68

you need both competition and cooperation. There are conservatives who take the opposite extreme


10 posted on 11/28/2007 6:22:02 AM PST by ari-freedom (I don't want Huckabee or Applebee...give me someone from Tennessee!)
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To: shrinkermd
Every once in a while, we have a thread about "How do you define Left vs Right?" and "Were the Nazis really rightwing?"

I think the breakdown is simple: Collectivist vs Individualist.

These folks are pushing team effort rather than personal effort. These folks are pushing Collectivism. The Bolsheviks and the Nazis and the Democrats are smiling.

11 posted on 11/28/2007 6:22:05 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: ari-freedom

“you need both competition and cooperation.”

In procuring a job? Cooperation from whom?


12 posted on 11/28/2007 6:23:33 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: Slapshot68

Obviously, someone has never heard of ‘networking’. Hell, who you know and who you can ‘grease’ is often more important than your qualifications!


13 posted on 11/28/2007 6:24:41 AM PST by SomeReasonableDude (Back it up.)
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To: Slapshot68

to succeed in life you need both. You’re not going to get a job without people skills.


14 posted on 11/28/2007 6:25:07 AM PST by ari-freedom (I don't want Huckabee or Applebee...give me someone from Tennessee!)
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To: shrinkermd
Generation Y might be in for quite a shock when they show up for work at their first jobs. "They expect to be immediate heroes and heroines. They expect a lot of feedback on a daily basis. They expect grade inflation, they expect to be told what a wonderful job they're doing,"

Yup, yup, yup and yup.

15 posted on 11/28/2007 6:27:28 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: SomeReasonableDude

“Obviously, someone has never heard of ‘networking’.”

Networking is a tool of competition, not cooperation with a competing job seeker.


16 posted on 11/28/2007 6:28:13 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: ari-freedom
You’re not going to get a job without people skills.

Naaaah. I can't be bothered to learn people skills. I figure someone else in my group will have the people skills, so I'm just going to color this poster over here ...

17 posted on 11/28/2007 6:28:23 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: ari-freedom

“You’re not going to get a job without people skills.”

Yes, I know. What does that have to do with the competing factor in job searches?


18 posted on 11/28/2007 6:30:14 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: metmom

Ping


19 posted on 11/28/2007 6:32:38 AM PST by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*RWVA)
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To: SomeReasonableDude

when we visited Boston, we couldn’t help but notice just how many drunk and “not quite all there” college kids were hanging around.


20 posted on 11/28/2007 6:36:10 AM PST by ari-freedom (I don't want Huckabee or Applebee...give me someone from Tennessee!)
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