Posted on 11/27/2007 6:12:35 PM PST by Aristotelian
All is fair in love and war, the centuries–old proverb states. Politics is not included, but given the way the game is played in modern–day America, maybe it should be. That’s the sense I had again this morning watching Mark Penn, the chief political strategist for Democrat Hillary Clinton, denigrate our latest Zogby Interactive survey simply because it showed his client in a bad light (Link to Latest Poll Number). Penn made the contention on the MSNBC morning news program hosted by Joe Scarborough (Link to Video)
Penn mischaracterized this latest online Zogby poll as our first interactive survey ever – a bizarre contention, since we have been developing and perfecting our Internet polling methodology for nearly a decade (Zogby Intreractive Methodology), and since Penn’s company has been quietly requesting the results of such polls from Zogby for years. We always comply as part of our pledge to give public Zogby polling results to any and every candidate and campaign that asks for them. What is interesting is that no other campaign has made as many requests for Zogby polling data over the years than Penn has made on behalf of Clinton.
Because Mark Penn is a quality pollster himself, we chalk up his contention that our poll is “meaningless” as a knee–jerk reaction by a campaign under pressure coming down the stretch. Several other polls – Zogby surveys and others – have shown her national lead and her leads in early–voting states like Iowa and New Hampshire have shrunk. This is not unusual. These presidential contests usually tighten as the primaries and caucuses approach.
Fritz Wenzel Director of Communications Zogby International
General election match-ups show the New York Senator would lose against every top Republican
UTICA, New York – A new Zogby Interactive survey shows Democrat Hillary Clinton of New York would lose to every one of the top five Republican presidential contenders, representing a reversal of fortune for the national Democratic front–runner who had led against all prospective GOP opponents earlier this year.
Meanwhile, fellow Democrats Barack Obama of Illinois and John Edwards of North Carolina would defeat or tie every one of the Republicans, this latest survey shows.
11/26/2007 7/14/2007 5/17/2007
Clinton 38% 45% 43%
McCain 42% 43% 47%
11/26/2007 7/14/2007 5/17/2007
Clinton 40% 46% 43%
Giuliani 43% 41% 48%
11/26/2007 7/14/2007 5/17/2007
Clinton 40% 48% 48%
Romney 43% 38% 40%
11/26/2007 7/14/2007 5/17/2007
Clinton 39% N/A N/A
Huckabee 44% N/A N/A
11/26/2007 7/14/2007 5/17/2007
Clinton 40% 47% 48%
Thompson 44% 41% 41%
11/26/2007 7/14/2007 5/17/2007
Obama 45% 45% 46%
McCain 38% 42% 43%
11/26/2007 7/14/2007 5/17/2007
Obama 46% 46% 48%
Giuliani 41% 42% 42%
11/26/2007 7/14/2007 5/17/2007
Obama 46% 49% 52%
Romney 40% 35% 35%
11/26/2007 7/14/2007 5/17/2007
Obama 46% N/A N/A
Huckabee 40% N/A N/A
11/26/2007 7/14/2007 5/17/2007
Obama 47% 48% 52%
Thompson 40% 40% 35%
11/26/2007 7/14/2007 5/17/2007
Edwards 42% 43% 41%
McCain 42% 43% 46%
11/26/2007 7/14/2007 5/17/2007
Edwards 44% 43% 43%
Giuliani 43% 46% 47%
11/26/2007 7/14/2007 5/17/2007
Edwards 44% 47% 50%
Romney 42% 38% 36%
11/26/2007 7/14/2007 5/17/2007
Edwards 43% N/A N/A
Huckabee 42% N/A N/A
11/26/2007 7/14/2007 5/17/2007
Edwards 45% 46% 48%
Thompson 42% 40% 40%
Figures from the earlier surveys cited in this news release are from Zogby International telephone surveys, including 1,012 likely voters in the July survey and 993 likely voters in the May survey.
The online survey included 9,150 likely voters nationwide, and was conducted Nov. 21–26, 2007. It carries a margin of error of +/– 1.0 percentage points.
(11/26/2007)
democrats lie
he got caught
what else is new.
On Drudge.
This is certainly odd.
Zogby has always leaned toward the Democrats, and their bias got worse after 9/11 because they also lean Muslim.
If there was ever a friend of the Muslims, it is hillary. Osama Obama is/was a Muslim, but claims to have converted to Christianity, which would not endear him to any real Muslim.
So why would Zogby cook the books against hillary? I can’t figure out any reason for it.
More important, it reveals the poor quality of TV journalism. Had any good reporter heard those claims, his first response would be: Prove it. Not so on TV. That let’s these political hacks get away with murder.
Because Obama is a muslim.
The Clintons destroy anyone or anything that disagrees with them. Even pollsters.
If Hillary’s people couldn’t lie, they’d literally have nothing to say.
A lie goes round the world before the truth puts its shoes on.
But H! has co-president Huma on her side.
Hillary must lose. Please GOP, don’t nominate Huckabee.
Zogby was the man and company behind the 2004 exit polling that turned out terribly incorrect, he has since tightened up his methods or he would lose credibilty that is so crucial to any public polling company.
Zogby also had the earlier poll that showed both Hillary and Obama with incredibly high “I would never vote for” numbers.
Obama was at 33% Hilde was at 40+%.
So maybe he is fishing around for some “R” business this campaign by playing straight?
LOL. Typical Clinton.
*snort* Yuh, right!
1. Her deficits are in the area of public perception of her as not being a truthful person, running for purely personal power, etc. One cannot easily change those (very accurate) perceptions with advertising.
2. This data leads to an obvious next comment by Obama and Edwards supporters; “Why give money or support to Hillary. Who cares if she wins the primaries. She cannot win the General.”
3. The big question at a very important meeting in DC tonight; “What more does Hillary have. She has run primarily on the one fact that she is “The Incredible Hillary”... and that act has gotten very old... and thread bare.” Many wonder if “The Incredible Hillary” is really “The Incredible Shrinking Hillary.”
4. The Conventional Wisdom has always (quietly) been that the Hildabeast started way too early; that she is at best yesterday’s news. Is she Scoop Jackson and Ed Muskie all over again?
5. Hillary has another huge problem. No Dem will campaign against her using the tremendously powerful negatives that Republicans could use against her in the General. Obama and Edwards can’t say “Do you really want the shame of another Clinton in the White House?” “Do you really want our campaigns to be paid for by the Chinese Communists AGAIN?”
Or how about my personal favorite “Our next president will have to be very tough to stand up to the Radical Muslims who want to kill every American. The only time Hillary “stood up” regarding radical Muslims was the time she stood up to hug and kiss Mrs. Yassar Arafat!”
She may in the political death spiral.
ttt
That was a haiku!
When you enemy chooses to deceive himself, this can only help you.
Don’ you be startin’
Haiku dozens on FR.
This way lies madness.
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