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Noose protest planned [Central Michigan Univ]
The Morning Sun [Mt. Pleasant, MI] ^ | Nov. 27, 2007 | Lisa Satayut & Susan Field

Posted on 11/27/2007 10:57:41 AM PST by RedsHunter

A Detroit-based group is calling for a national protest early next month after a meeting with Isabella County Prosecutor Larry Burdick regarding nooses found in a Central Michigan University classroom.

The Rev. Charles Williams II, leader of the National Council for Community Empowerment, also demanded Monday that Burdick take legal action immediately against the student who said he hung the nooses on Central Michigan University's campus.

Williams said in a press release that his organization requested a meeting with Burdick and that the group “has yet to receive return correspondence.”

Williams staged a press conference in front of the Isabella County Building, then met with Burdick.

During the press conference, Williams said he sent his request to Burdick late Sunday night.

Burdick also received a fax of the request at 7:12 a.m. Monday - roughly five hours before Williams arrived at the county building to express his concern that a possible ethnic intimidation case against a CMU student who admitted to hanging the nooses is not moving forward fast enough.

Williams was also dissatisfied with his meeting with Burdick, who told the minister that he was not yet given a copy of the police report -- which officers turned over later Monday afternoon.

“The meeting didn't go so good,” Williams said minutes after leaving Burdick's office.

Williams said he did not get the answers from Burdick that he came for, and that Burdick “went back and forth” with him, saying that he is waiting for certain documents.

Williams said he doesn't understand why Burdick doesn't just request these documents instead of waiting for them.

Burdick responded that he does not believe the investigation by CMU Police and the FBI was moving slowly and that if he had concerns, he would have contacted CMU Police Chief Stan Dinius.

“I have every expectation that it's a thorough investigation,” Burdick said. “I'm not going to pre-judge a case before I even get the report.”

Burdick and his senior staff will review the report over the next few days, he said.

Williams expressed concern at the press conference about the amount of time that has passed since the student came forward.

“My main concern is that there has been no arraignment, no charge, and no movement on this issue,” Williams said.

“Nothing but an investigation has been done,” he said.

Williams said that the authorities have a confession and something needs to be done now.

“He must prosecute now,” Williams said. “Authorities have the confession.”

Burdick, however, said it takes time to complete a police investigation -- in this case, numerous interviews were conducted.

Burdick also said intent comes into play and that it is important that police thoroughly investigate why the student hung the nooses.

To prove ethnic intimidation, according to state law, a prosecutor must prove one or more elements -- physical contact, damage to or destruction of real or personal property of another person, or threatening, by word or act, another person.

Although there have been reports that the incident was a Halloween joke, Williams, who is planning the protest for Dec. 7 at the county building, said he is not “buying that.”

“That's not going to fly,” he said.

“This is not just a prank, thousands of men during the civil rights movement in the south died, it's like saying ‘Let's go to Germany and play flag football in the concentration camps.' This is serious and the Isabella County office needs to prosecute to the fullest extent, or we will be calling for a national protest,” Williams said.

The nooses were found in a laboratory classroom in the Engineering and Technology Building Nov. 12 by a CMU senior, who says he saw them hanging from a wall mounted cabinet, according to a police report.

The four nooses were about 12 inches in length and were made from flexible compressed gas lines that are normally used for laboratory work, Dinius said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: correctness; free; political; speech

1 posted on 11/27/2007 10:57:43 AM PST by RedsHunter
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To: RedsHunter

Just curious-—when did it become illegal to hang a noose somewhere? Can anyone point me to a law that says it’s illegal to put a noose anywhere?


2 posted on 11/27/2007 11:06:21 AM PST by basil (Support the Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: RedsHunter

I’d like to show up with a placard of Bullwinkle crossed out and say “I thought it was a protest against mooses!”


3 posted on 11/27/2007 11:06:37 AM PST by AU72
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To: RedsHunter

Is this like a “noose-gow”?


4 posted on 11/27/2007 11:11:39 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: basil

They’re just trying to hang this issue around necks of whites.


5 posted on 11/27/2007 11:21:02 AM PST by dblshot
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To: RedsHunter

We had an article on the news here last night about a “noose” hung in a man’s tree. He showed it on camera and I about burst out laughing. It was simply a very light rope with a slip knot in it. I might have used one as a kid to try to rope a bunny.

A noose has a very specific knot. My son used to sit in class and practice them with a light weight cord when he was bored. I found dozens of them in his room as it was the first complicated knot he ever learned to tie. He had no concept that it would be offensive to anybody but someone who was a criminal.

I think some people have too much time on their hands. I don’t have time to be offended so much.


6 posted on 11/27/2007 11:21:50 AM PST by Grammy
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To: RedsHunter
Why isnt this posted in Breaking Noose?

*rim shot*

7 posted on 11/27/2007 11:22:18 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: RedsHunter
“This is not just a prank, thousands of men during the civil rights movement in the south died,

Bullsit.

8 posted on 11/27/2007 11:23:33 AM PST by Condor51 (Rudy has more baggage than Samsonite)
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To: RedsHunter

The nooses were probably planted by someone who was trying to “raise awareness”, ie,

keep the past grievances in front of the public as if nothing has changed in 150 years.


9 posted on 11/27/2007 11:27:20 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: RedsHunter

They need to start a new party.
I suggest it be called the “Perpetually Offended Party”.


10 posted on 11/27/2007 11:28:04 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy and Romney voters send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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To: Condor51

Good luck finding some accurate lynching statistics. Revisionist history would have you believe that it didn’t exist before the 1880s even though the work “lynch” is taken from the name of a harsh judge from Virginia in the 1700s.

The fact is, before the 1880s, lynching was exclusively done to whites, by whites and it continued to be done to whites as long as it was done to blacks. Prior to emancipation, lynching a slave would likely get you killed.

There were a little over 4,000 lynchings in the US between the 1880s and 1930s. About 1/3 of those were done to white people. Lynchings were commonly done to whites in the old west but data is hard to come by as it is often listed by state and much white lynching happened in territories yet to become states.

It is safe to say that far many more whites than blacks were lynched in America.


11 posted on 11/27/2007 11:42:47 AM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: RedsHunter
“The meeting didn't go so good,” Williams said minutes after leaving Burdick's office.

It might have gone well if the leader of the National Council for Community Empowerment were able to speak English properly.

12 posted on 11/27/2007 11:43:18 AM PST by par4 (Scruting the inscrutable since the 20th century)
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To: Condor51

To put it in perspective, the number of whites murdered by blacks between 1995 and 2003 exceed the number of blacks lynched in the entire history of America.

By this “noose” logic, the very sight of a black person should be considered racial intimidation of whites.


13 posted on 11/27/2007 12:10:19 PM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: RedsHunter

Whats up with the Columbia professor and the noose on her door? I have not seen a single story or heard a single report on that incident since Columbia turned over videos to the cops.


14 posted on 11/27/2007 12:10:39 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: RedsHunter

Noose alert!


15 posted on 11/27/2007 12:26:00 PM PST by LRS (It's time to put Hillary on the 3:10 to Yuma...)
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To: L98Fiero
***Good luck finding some accurate lynching statistics.***

It's not only lynching.

This nut jobs claim that "thousands" where killed during the civil rights era 'fight' is patently absurd.

16 posted on 11/27/2007 12:26:45 PM PST by Condor51 (Rudy has more baggage than Samsonite)
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To: Condor51

Remember Major Owens claiming that 200 million slaves were dumped overboard by traders? Do the math. It doesn’t add up.


17 posted on 11/27/2007 4:21:27 PM PST by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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