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The FairTax -- The Truth By Neal Boortz
Townhall.com ^ | November 27, 2007 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 11/27/2007 6:02:19 AM PST by K-oneTexas

The FairTax -- The Truth By Neal Boortz Tuesday, November 27, 2007

Last Thursday Townhall contributor Hank Adler published a column on this website entitled “A Hard Look At The Fair Tax (sic)”. Almost immediately the emails started pouring into my show – literally by the hundreds – urging me to post a response to Adler’s rather stinging critique of the FairTax.

Since Congressman John Linder, the author of H.R. 25, The FairTax Act, and I wrote “The FairTax Book” in 2005 we’ve seen an unprecedented and ever-growing nationwide interest in this tax reform idea. Let’s face it, you have to be doing something to capture the imagination of the American people to have a book on taxes debut No. 1 on The New York Times Bestsellers List. There are some, though not in what we call the mainstream media, who think that Governor Mike Huckabee’s embrace of The FairTax is an important element to his rise in the GOP presidential sweepstakes.

Now to make this column worth reading for those of you who are not familiar with the FairTax, a very quick introduction is in order.

The FairTax eliminates all corporate, business and personal federal income taxes, all payroll taxes, capital gains taxes, dividend taxes and estate taxes, and replaces them all with one embedded sales tax on the sale of all goods and services at the retail level. Tens of millions of dollars in research show that the corporate and personal income and payroll taxes that will be eliminated by the FairTax end up being paid by consumers at the retail level. The average amount of embedded taxes in the cost of everything we buy at retail is approximately 22 percent. This would mean that we are replacing the embedded cost of our present tax system (22 percent) with the embedded FairTax (23 percent).

Every household in America will receive a check or a credit to an account at the beginning of every month equal to the amount of FairTax that household would be expected to pay during that month on the basic necessities of life. Poverty figures for various family sizes from the Commerce Department will be used to calculate the size of this “prebate.” This guarantees that nobody will have to pay the FairTax on the basic necessities.

There is so much more to this proposal, but to learn more you really need to devour the FairTax website (http://www.fairtax.org) or order a copy of The FairTax Book online.

OK .. there’s your briefest of introductions. Let’s move on to the reason for this column.

Congressman Linder and I are no strangers to dealing with out-of-left-field attacks on the FairTax. When it comes to criticisms, it’s somewhat safe to say that we’ve heard it all. We’re both such strong believers in the FairTax and the massive transformation it would bring about, not only in our daily lives, but in the nature of our governance and our economy, that neither of us minds responding to substantive and well thought out critiques. We have, in fact, written a follow-up book entitled “FairTax, The Truth” that will be published by Harper Collins in February of next year.

Linder and I do, however, confess to a certain level of exasperation at having to spend the time responding to critiques proffered by those with a limited understanding of the FairTax, those who have chosen to ignore the basics of the FairTax, or those who just outright misrepresent the plan, in order, we suppose, to give support to a more damming criticism.

Helooooooooooo Hank Adler!

Adler’s column wanders (somewhat aimlessly) over 25 pages. With “FairTax, The Truth” hitting the book stores in less than three months there is no real need to use quite so much of your precious toner or ink cartridge in our response.

If someone criticized your purchase of a four-cylinder one-ton pickup truck on the basis that four cylinders simply can’t provide the power necessary to get any serious work done – and if the reality was that you were actually purchasing a hefty V-8 – you might be predisposed to ignore any other criticisms of your new truck on the basis that the critic simply doesn’t know what he’s talking about. That is the case with Adler’s FairTax essay.

At various points in Adler’s screed he exhibits a complete lack of understanding – even an awareness -- of the concept of embedded taxes. Suspecting that there is a slight chance that some of you who are devouring every word of this column share Adler’s lack of awareness of embedded taxes, a short explanation is due.

Simply put … every person, business or other entity that has any involvement at all in bringing any product or service to the retail marketplace incurs a tax cost arising from that involvement; and every one of these entities will incorporate that tax cost into whatever they charge for their labor, ideas or material goods. All of those tax costs come home to roost in the final retail cost of that product or service, to the average tune of 22 percent. Again, simply put, the FairTax removes those embedded tax costs from the price of all goods and services at the retail level and replaces them with the embedded 23 percent FairTax.

This is where you find the fatal flaw in Adler’s critique of the FairTax. Amazingly, not once in his entire 25-page essay does Adler mention the concept of embedded taxes in the price of everything we buy, or the fact that those embedded taxes will be removed by the FairTax. Not only does he not mention the embedded taxes, he doesn’t even give the vaguest of hints that he even knows they exist! To fail to understand, or to gloss over or simply ignore this crucial concept in a discussion of the FairTax is to render your entire argument lacking in credibility and barely worthy of response. But, being the argumentative type, I’m going to continue laying waste to at least some of Adler’s arguments.

Adler’s essay does not exactly flow effortlessly from point to point. So, in the name of brevity and out of a certain sense of mercy, I’ll just take aim at a few targets of opportunity here.

First of all we have this silly insistence on quoting the FairTax rate as 30 percent rather than 23 percent. This childish exercise is the favorite of people who either have a vested interest in preserving our present tax system, or who feel the need to criticize but lack the ability to make their criticism meaningful.

The FairTax is embedded in the price of everything you buy at the retail level. If you buy a $100 griddle, the price tag for the griddle will say $100. When you get a receipt for your purchase that receipt will itemized to show that $77 of the total cost will be retained by the retailer and $23 will be sent to the federal government as the FairTax. The total is $100, just as the price tag says. In most government schools across the country they will teach that the $23 going to the government is 23 percent of $100 you paid for the griddle. That, my friends, is why the FairTax is quoted as 23 percent; because it is embedded into not added onto the price of your purchase.

Another reason to quote the FairTax as an embedded tax is because it will essentially be replacing the 22 percent embedded tax already present in the price of everything you buy, as covered above.

Wait! There’s more!

• The FairTax is designed to replace the federal income tax. The federal income tax is quoted as an embedded tax. If you were to quote the income tax as an excusive tax the 25 percent bracket would be quoted as 33.3 percent, and the top bracket would be quoted as 54 percent.

• The FairTax will replace all payroll taxes. Payroll taxes are quoted as embedded taxes. If you were to quote your entire Social Security tax bill (and that includes your employer’s so-called “contribution,”) as an exclusive tax the rate would be 20.5 percent.

I don’t know, maybe it’s just me, but it seems to me that if people like Adler are so hell-bent on quoting the FairTax as an exclusive tax, why not quote the income tax and the payroll taxes the same way? Doesn’t that seem fair to you?

In case Mr. Adler is reading this … one more time. We’re replacing embedded taxes with embedded taxes. Apples to apples, you know.

Now let’s get on to addressing some of the specific points in Adler’s column. To make things easy, I’m simply going to put his quotes in a nifty little boxes, followed by my response.

Here we go:

H.R. 25 would result in an immediate reduction in purchasing power upon implementation for existing savings which have previously been subject to U.S. income taxes (double taxation).

Here Adler once again ignores the role of embedded taxes. The price of consumer goods in this country would remain essentially the same. The embedded taxes are merely replaced by the FairTax. How, then, does anyone suffer a decrease in purchasing power?

H.R. 25 would result in an on-going and significant reduction in purchasing power for many social security recipients with other sources of income or savings.

This is already getting monotonous. How does your purchasing power go down when you have the same amount of money in your pocket, perhaps more with the prebate, and the things you are buying cost pretty much the same?

H.R. 25 would result in the elimination of the safety net provided by the Internal Revenue Code in reducing Federal taxes for victims of disease and disaster, the elimination of incentives to save through pension plans or investment retirement, and the elimination of credits and deductions for child care.

What? These incentives Adler is talking about are tax deductions or credits. Of what possible value is a tax deduction or credit to someone who pays no income taxes? The income tax is gone under the fair tax; and Adler is going to sit around bemoaning the loss of tax deductions? This is like complaining that your 20% off coupons for bread are rendered worthless when the bakery starts giving bread away for free.

There are conflicting studies projecting the necessary tax rate required to achieve neutral tax revenues under H.R. 25.

Every one of these “conflicting studies” first changes the terms of H.R. 25 before they reveal that the tax rate might not necessarily be 23 percent. When the FairTax is scored as written economists agree on the proposed tax rate.

With every major conceptual change, there will be thousands of different interpretations of the rules. It would take years to sort these interpretations out. During that period, Treasury would issue volumes of rules and regulations.

Different interpretations of the rule! Oh, the humanity! And we all know that there are no differing interpretations of the rules under our present tax code, don’t we? Even the IRS can’t accurately calculate a taxpayer’s tax liability fifty percent of the time. Oh … and that part about the Treasury issuing volumes of rules and regulations. The current tax code takes tens of thousands of pages. H.R. 25 is 133 pages long.

H.R. 25 proposes a 23% “tax inclusive” sales tax rate. Sales taxes are not traditionally described in a “tax inclusive” manner. Sales taxes are traditionally described in a “tax exclusive” manner.

The FairTax is not a “traditional” sales tax. Consumer prices are traditionally quoted without the sales tax. Prices under the FairTax are quoted with the sales tax included. If Adler is so concerned about tradition, then let him sit on the sidelines while others with a view to the future get some things done.

At implementation, existing savings will have diminished purchasing power of 30%.

There’s that 30 percent silliness again .. and once again Adler completely ignores (if he’s aware of it at all) the fact that prices do not go up when the FairTax is implemented. The embedded taxes from our present tax system are removed, the FairTax is added … and we’re pretty much right back where we started. When you take money out of your savings account under our current tax scheme, and when you spend that money, you’re paying the 22 percent embedded tax. After implementation you’ll be paying the 23 percent embedded FairTax instead. Wrong, Mr. Adler. Flat out wrong.

At implementation, all of the social and business incentives, benefits and disincentives included in the Internal Revenue Code disappear:

A tax code should exist to procure the funds necessary for the operation of government, not to manipulate human or business behavior. Besides, the form of these “social and business incentives, benefits and disincentives” consist basically of tax credits or deductions. Credits and deductions are meaningless when there is no longer an income tax.

Among the “incentives” and “benefits” that Adler says will disappear we find references to the following:

Home interest deduction – encouraging home ownership

Contribution deductions - encouraging contributions to charity

Lower tax rate on capital gains - encouraging investment

Lower tax rate on dividends - encouraging investment

Come on, my friends. Are you beginning to see for yourselves how absurd these arguments are? Point by point:

• The home mortgage interest deduction is of no value whatsoever to someone who does not pay income taxes.

• People don’t contribute to charity in order to get a tax deduction. Who would give away $1000 just to save $350 on their taxes? Somehow that doesn’t seem to be a good trade to me.

• If lower tax rates on capital gains encourage investment … think what NO taxes on capital gains would do. That’s life under the FairTax.

• Ditto for dividends.

Look … I could go on and on picking apart Adler’s FairTax critique. You can see how easy this is. It’s like hunting over a baited field.

Truth is, Hank Adler certainly isn’t alone in his faulty interpretation and understanding of the FairTax. I actually took the time to read some of the comments to his essay posted on Townhall.com and came up with this incredible beauty:

23% on profits, not costs...

This is often mentioned by Fair Tax proponents (who should know better), but I don't think it carries any water. They claim corporations pay 23% (or whatever number) in taxes, and if removed, they could lower the cost of their goods by 23%.

Problem is, that is 23% on their PROFITS, not their COSTS. Most company's taxable profits rarely exceed 15% (most are under 10%, some even lose money over the course of a year).

Now please excuse my Norwegian .. but what in the wide, wide world of sports is this character talking about? A 23% tax on profits? Now we can really be charitable here and suppose that this character is referring to the average 22 percent embedded taxes in every product and service we buy … but by what incredible twist of logic can some (presumably) government-educated person even bring themselves to put that thought process on paper?

Implementation of the FairTax would constitute the biggest transfer of power from the government to the people in the history of this Republic. Perhaps that is what frightens Mr. Adler the most.

Neal Boortz is a talk show host and columnist for Townhall.com as well as co-author of The FairTax Book .

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Nealz answer to last weeks article at Townhall.com.
1 posted on 11/27/2007 6:02:20 AM PST by K-oneTexas
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To: K-oneTexas

We have to get rid of the prebates.


2 posted on 11/27/2007 6:05:38 AM PST by Gipper08 (a real conservative for Congress... Aaronhankins.com)
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To: K-oneTexas; xcamel

Aw geez! not this $@!^ again!

a tax on consumption will inhibit consumption which will hurt the overall economy.
a zero-sum cost to the taxpayers is a pipe dream when dealing with the realitiers of washington. Ain’t gonna happen.
Businesses will NOT pass 100% of their savings (not having to pay taxes) onto consumers.
those who consume will pay more. meaning that those who spend more of their paycheck on goods and services will pay more, whilst thosw with higher incomes (super ruch) who spend less a percentage of their income on goods and services.

eliminate the IRS??? Who’s gonna mail them “prebates” to people each and every month?? sounds like a net beauracratic growth to me.

note no taaxes on capital gains - the dems are gonna love that one!


3 posted on 11/27/2007 6:10:43 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: camle; All
American’s will never accept a tax on success and the trappings there of.

There are a myriad of other issues with the “Fair Tax”, but that one makes it all moot.

4 posted on 11/27/2007 6:13:49 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Mitt Romney, like curing cancer with a coronary...)
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To: camle
Seems it’s taking multiple posts to “refute” things here..
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1931088/posts

Aw geez! not this $@!^ again...and again and again and again......

5 posted on 11/27/2007 6:24:19 AM PST by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: ejonesie22

Fair?? HA!
It’s the ‘you-gotta-live-like-a-hermit tax”


6 posted on 11/27/2007 6:25:40 AM PST by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: K-oneTexas
Every household in America will receive a check or a credit to an account at the beginning of every month equal to the amount of FairTax that household would be expected to pay during that month on the basic necessities of life. Poverty figures for various family sizes from the Commerce Department will be used to calculate the size of this "prebate." This guarantees that nobody will have to pay the FairTax on the basic necessities.
The Commerce Department? Hasn't Boortz read the bill? Sec. 303 clearly states that the poverty level is determined by the Department of Health and Human Services.
7 posted on 11/27/2007 6:28:23 AM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: K-oneTexas
“A Hard Look At The Fair Tax (sic)”
What's the "sic" for Neal? The bill's official short title is "Fair Tax Act of 2007."
8 posted on 11/27/2007 6:31:17 AM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: K-oneTexas
The FairTax eliminates all corporate, business and personal federal income taxes, all payroll taxes, capital gains taxes, dividend taxes and estate taxes, and replaces them all with one embedded sales tax on the sale of all goods and services at the retail level.
The FairTax would not be "embedded." Sec 510 clearly states "For each purchase of taxable property or services for which a tax is imposed by section 101, the seller shall charge the tax imposed by section 101 separately from the purchase."

Boortz is an idiot. I couldn't have picked a better spokesman for the FairTax.
9 posted on 11/27/2007 6:36:18 AM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: K-oneTexas
"Come on, my friends. Are you beginning to see for yourselves how absurd these arguments are? Point by point:

• The home mortgage interest deduction is of no value whatsoever to someone who does not pay income taxes.

how many people are paying mortgates and not income taxes??? My guess is that if one is too poor tp pay taxes, they are probably too poor to afford a house. Why not KO the housing industry altogether?

• People don’t contribute to charity in order to get a tax deduction. Who would give away $1000 just to save $350 on their taxes? Somehow that doesn’t seem to be a good trade to me.

huh? that's countraindicated - if the tax deductions on charity are so miniscule, why are they even deduc table int the first place unless it is to encourage charity.

• If lower tax rates on capital gains encourage investment … think what NO taxes on capital gains would do. That’s life under the FairTax.

ayup. the dems are really gonna go for this. the superrich get super richer, and guess who has to make up for the revenue loss due to this exemption. "what's gonna pay for this tax cut for the rich?"

• Ditto for dividends.

ditto for favoring the rich at the expense of the middle class/poor.

10 posted on 11/27/2007 6:38:06 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: ejonesie22
American’s will never accept a tax on success

Then what would an INCOME tax be classified as other than a tax on success? Or even cap gains taxes, for that matter - successful investing is taxed.

11 posted on 11/27/2007 6:39:44 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: ejonesie22
American’s will never accept a tax on success and the trappings there of.

Um, that is EXACTLY what we have now!

12 posted on 11/27/2007 6:41:21 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Thinking of voting Democrat? Wake up and smell the Socialism!)
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To: K-oneTexas
This guarantees that nobody will have to pay the FairTax on the basic necessities.
Not true. The bill determines the "prebate" by multiplying the poverty level by the inclusive rate. The tax on poverty level spending would be the poverty level multiplied by the exclusive rate. The prebate would not guarantee that nobody would have to pay the FairTax on the basic necessities.
13 posted on 11/27/2007 6:44:37 AM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: xcamel

Yup...

And that’s what will kill it, even if it had no other flaws...


14 posted on 11/27/2007 6:50:56 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Mitt Romney, like curing cancer with a coronary...)
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To: K-oneTexas
it will essentially be replacing the 22 percent embedded tax already present in the price of everything you buy

And how, Neal, are you going to guarantee that that 22% will disappear?

15 posted on 11/27/2007 6:52:10 AM PST by expatpat
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To: K-oneTexas
Simply put … every person, business or other entity that has any involvement at all in bringing any product or service to the retail marketplace incurs a tax cost arising from that involvement; and every one of these entities will incorporate that tax cost into whatever they charge for their labor, ideas or material goods. All of those tax costs come home to roost in the final retail cost of that product or service, to the average tune of 22 percent. Again, simply put, the FairTax removes those embedded tax costs from the price of all goods and services at the retail level and replaces them with the embedded 23 percent FairTax.
Hasn't Boortz learned his lesson about "embedded taxes"? The 22 percent number comes for one study done by Dale Jorgenson. The majority of those "embedded" taxes are personal income and payroll taxes! To get those out of prices workers post-FairTax gross pay would have to equal their pre-FairTax net pay, i.e., their take home pay would not change. This isn't going to happen, thus these "embedded taxes" can't be removed from prices.

Boortz himself admitted this error at one point and even changed the second edition of his #1 NY Times bestseller. But he keeps going back to the erroneous claim. Why? Because his arguments fall apart without these mythical "embedded taxes."
16 posted on 11/27/2007 6:55:27 AM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: K-oneTexas
Too complex. Why can't we have something simple:

1. Enter your total income __________

2. Enter $5000 for single-filer, or $10,000 for married filers _____________

3. Enter your number of dependents times $5000 ____________

4. Add lines 2 and 3. ______________

5. Subtract line 4 from line 1. ________________

6. If line 5 is less than zero, this is your refund __________

7. If line 5 is greater than zero, multiply line 5 by .2 - this is your tax bill __________

And if you keep income tax payroll deductions, then there would be one more line to deal with that.

17 posted on 11/27/2007 7:00:14 AM PST by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: K-oneTexas

The true believers won’t be swayed by this one iota. Their love of the IRS and their own personal scam under the current system is more important than a truly equitable system.


18 posted on 11/27/2007 7:03:17 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: K-oneTexas
The FairTax will replace all payroll taxes. Payroll taxes are quoted as embedded taxes. If you were to quote your entire Social Security tax bill (and that includes your employer’s so-called “contribution,”) as an exclusive tax the rate would be 20.5 percent.
Uh, no, Neal. The employer portion is not "embedded" and it's already expressed in exclusive terms.

Boortz is really going off the deep end with this "embedded" tax BS.
19 posted on 11/27/2007 7:08:45 AM PST by Your Nightmare
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Yes, the income tax could be viewed that way as well, but the problem with that argument vs. the "Fair Tax" is two fold.

First, it’s about the point of impact. We are used to getting hit with the tax on our paycheck and the only time most Americans (the voters) think about it is tax time. If you pay a very noticeable amount every time you go shopping, well that is not going to be very popular. It’s call psychology, and it’s a factor. It could impact consumerism as well, something "Fair Tax" foes will point out, and it is a big deal in all this.

The second part is equity, and this is the deal breaker right here.

Two identical families with 75,000 in income. We go under the “Fair Tax”.

One family lives and enjoys the trappings of success, because that is what our economy is based on. Nice clothes, cars and the like. We make those things to sell and we buy them as a nation.

The other family buys used, used clothes, used cars and all that. They live like paupers basically.

Who pays more in taxes?

Under the current system all is equitable, all is fair as far as tax burden among peers. Forget everything else about the system as it is, for get the “SQL” crap, just take a look at the burden. That’s what we will be dealing with.

Under “Fair tax” the family who lives well (which is most middle class Americans) will end up with the bulk of the tax burden.

Now you will say (you all do) that it is by choice, that the first family can ‘cut back’ or just deal.

Well let’s look around you, do you see the malls, the merchandise. Do you think the majority of American’s want to cut back? Do you think that would be good for our economy?

You are right, family one has a choice, and I guarantee you that it will be to not support the “Fair Tax”.

Americans will not accept a tax on success, especially one that does not split the burden equally.

There are more than a few other ‘deal breakers’ but that’s the biggie and renders the rest moot.

20 posted on 11/27/2007 7:10:32 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Mitt Romney, like curing cancer with a coronary...)
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