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Foreclosures: Mayors see major hit to economy
http://money.cnn.com/2007/11/27/real_estate/mayors_fight_foreclosure/index.htm?postversion=200711270 ^ | 11-27-07 | Les Christie

Posted on 11/27/2007 5:26:02 AM PST by Hydroshock

Edited on 11/27/2007 5:38:55 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The mortgage meltdown will take a heavy toll on home prices in 2008 with declines expected to average 7 percent across the nation and lost property value of $1.2 trillion, according to the United States Conference of Mayors.

The mayors, meeting in Detroit this week, are predicting even more substantial plunges in local markets, with California home prices expected to shrink 16 percent.

The organization has representatives from more than 1,100 cities and were meeting to address problems brought on by spikes in foreclosure rates.

"Today the foreclosure crisis has the potential to break the back of our economy, as well as the backs of millions of American families, if we don't do something soon," said USCM President Douglas Palmer, Mayor of Trenton, N.J., in a written statement.

Foreclosures in 2008 will increase by at least 1.4 million, according to the mayors.

The economic impact will be substantial.


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1 posted on 11/27/2007 5:26:03 AM PST by Hydroshock
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To: Hydroshock; Calpernia; cbkaty; Nervous Tick; ex-Texan; RockinRight; NVDave; Neidermeyer; ...

Economy/Credit/Housing Issues Ping List

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2 posted on 11/27/2007 5:27:00 AM PST by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Hydroshock

Yippee..my property tax bill will go down....but only in my dreams


3 posted on 11/27/2007 5:28:14 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk. I Will Be Voting for Mr. Duncan Hunter, fellow FReepers.)
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To: Hydroshock
Hmmm... less revenue from property tax. Maybe they go into hedge fund.:-)
4 posted on 11/27/2007 5:30:51 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Hydroshock
Let's get it on, Chairman Bernanke!!!

The media has created this "emergency," Sir, so slash those rates to 3.75% as to not appear partisan.

5 posted on 11/27/2007 5:31:59 AM PST by BlabItGrabIt (Trucks...Trucks....Trucks...Trucks)
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To: From One - Many

The day they lower the property tax will be the same day they discover a new species of avain hogs.


6 posted on 11/27/2007 5:32:07 AM PST by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: BlabItGrabIt

We need a rate hike to combat inflation.


7 posted on 11/27/2007 5:33:29 AM PST by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Hydroshock
Sign me up.

Thanks!

8 posted on 11/27/2007 5:33:46 AM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican (Tom Daschle is deeply saddened... Remember him? Bahahahahahahahahaha!)
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To: Hydroshock

yes...so true...and only in my dreams (sigh)


9 posted on 11/27/2007 5:34:53 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk. I Will Be Voting for Mr. Duncan Hunter, fellow FReepers.)
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican

Done


10 posted on 11/27/2007 5:37:12 AM PST by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Hydroshock

Interesting that California is expected to experience the worst decline. This reflects the exact statements of some Freepers on several threads on this subject in the last two years. One of the things that’s driving this — and this is something we’ll start to see in other areas of the country — is a combination of two things: (1) an over-heated market to begin with (the turning point in California came back in 2005 when prudent financial advisors started telling some of their California clients to sell their homes and become renters instead); and (2) the pernicious effect of the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) on the real estate market in states with high income and/or property taxes (because Federal tax deductions for mortgage interest and state/local taxes are eliminated in the AMT bracket).


11 posted on 11/27/2007 5:41:59 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I expect to see a large amount of crying in city halls across the US. But instead of cuttign the fat they will cut necessary services and scream for a tax hike. The old Fireman First policy.


12 posted on 11/27/2007 5:44:23 AM PST by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Hydroshock

Home ATM de jour


13 posted on 11/27/2007 5:45:10 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Hydroshock

Political corruption, tangles of bureaucratic nonsense, high taxes and fees, useless bureaucrats, crumbling infrastructure, the exodus of young people ( the future) and growing armies of welfare bums will continue to plague liberal northern cities, as they race to the bottom of the socialist welfare state.

The economic impact will be substantial.


14 posted on 11/27/2007 5:46:21 AM PST by sergeantdave (The majority of Michigan voters are that stupid and the condition is incipient and growing.)
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To: Hydroshock

I imagine the mayors are setting the stage to beg for a federal bailout of some sort.


15 posted on 11/27/2007 5:50:04 AM PST by randita
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With what money? We are in real danger of seeing what happens to a credit/debt based economy when many if not most are no longer able to borrow anymore.


16 posted on 11/27/2007 5:52:52 AM PST by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

Interesting link. I don’t agree, though, with the blogger’s conclusion that this housing crisis has made all homeowners “sub-prime.” My husband and I own our house outright. If housing prices decline over the next few years, if credit tightens up, we won’t be affected since we don’t have to move and we don’t pay a mortgage.

The current housing crisis demonstrates the foolishness of buying more house than one can afford.


17 posted on 11/27/2007 6:08:14 AM PST by steadfastconservative
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To: Hydroshock

Oh, PLEASE Federal Government!!!!! Please bail us out!!!! How can our cities function if we don’t have our inflated property taxes?????? We’re counting on this money!!!!!


18 posted on 11/27/2007 6:10:08 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds ("You ask, 'What is our aim?' I can answer in one word: VICTORY - victory - at all costs...")
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To: Hydroshock
Were there articles about the mayors getting together to do Riverdance style line dances when the housing prices (and taxes) were going through the roof? No, I didn't think so. They just stayed at home and spent the cash.
19 posted on 11/27/2007 6:15:11 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Government is the hired help - not the boss. When politicians forget that they must be fired.)
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To: Hydroshock

All of this hubbub misses a very important point.

What is a house *worth*? If you compare what you pay when you buy a house with what it is actually worth, it is obvious that it is a rip-off.

In today’s market, would you be willing to pay $8 for a cup of coffee? $20 for a donut? Probably not. So why are people willing to pay $400,000 for a house worth perhaps $50,000?

The bubble had to burst eventually. For years, some people have known that they could save a huge amount of money if they contracted the building of their own new home, and subcontracted the work out. But most people just wanted to buy an off-the-rack house, without the hassle.

And it just plain wasn’t worth it.

On top of that, the inflated price of housing had the side effect of paying far more property taxes than was fair.

So it is a good thing, and long overdue, that this bubble is bursting. Hopefully house prices will plummet, and government will be forced to lower property taxes to a fair level.

What we can get out of the deal is better homes, at much lower cost. Instead of the slapdash affairs thrown together on a poorly laid slab of concrete, with a green pine lumber frame, chicken wire wall board, and the appearance of value in lots of expensive extra angles.

The heck with biodegradable housing! Give us a house that we can pass along to our children in good condition.

The Levittown subdivisions of the 1950s and ‘60’s need to be gentrified. But instead of tearing them down to build cheap condos, or more cheap houses, they should be replaced with better housing.

Suburbia can be redesigned. Lots can be combined. Things like basements, steel frames, far more efficient insulation and design, created for easy maintenance and repair, energy efficiency and better security.

People should be living in the “homes of the future”, not just expensive, glorified cardboard boxes. We deserve to get value for our money.


20 posted on 11/27/2007 6:15:47 AM PST by Popocatapetl
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