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Australia may say farewell to Queen after republican leader wins election
Times Online ^ | November 26 2007 | Bernard Lagan

Posted on 11/26/2007 2:04:51 PM PST by knighthawk

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To: SevenofNine

Another question to Australian Freepers...
Is it true that Rudman pandered to Australia’s version of America’s
“values voters”?

I heard one news report that mentioned his going after the “values
voters” of Australia. But, that when asked on some interview show
when asked “Do you think Jesus is the Son of God?, he hesitated
and then launched off into a long-winded diversionary commentary about
his “well-known church attendance”...of course, never answering the question.

I’m not one that thinks politicians need to push their religional
“worldview” in order to get votes...but I do sit up when a politician
uses religion as a “lure” for votes, but then appears to be something of
an empty suit on religion.

Any thought about Rudman on this issue?


21 posted on 11/26/2007 2:16:21 PM PST by VOA
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To: RightWhale

Republicans in Australia (and many other countries) want Australia to be a Republic.

I agree with the notion that Rudd has no where to go but down. The Australian economy has been booming for the last decade. Immigration law is fairly tough, boat people are thrown in deportation camps. However, taxes are already quite high and I suspect signing the Kyoto protocol will have a bad effect on the economy, especially since the one of the top Aussie exports is coal.


22 posted on 11/26/2007 2:16:37 PM PST by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: Dagnabitt

When HTML goes bad.


23 posted on 11/26/2007 2:16:38 PM PST by Dagnabitt (Si se puede con Huckabee!)
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To: cripplecreek
Australia has a queen?


24 posted on 11/26/2007 2:17:24 PM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: SevenofNine

OOPS...I meant “Rudd” NOT “Rudman” (momentary synapse failure
with a substitution of a former US Senator!)


25 posted on 11/26/2007 2:17:32 PM PST by VOA
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To: Dagnabitt

I was referring to the Leftward moves, not the monarchy. I should have made that clear.


26 posted on 11/26/2007 2:17:47 PM PST by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his Lacking Decisive Stands.)
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To: mallardx

“It gets worse...one of his main advisors is a rock star from the band Midnight Oil. Poor Australia, hope they survive.”

Yeah, it got worse.


27 posted on 11/26/2007 2:19:46 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: knighthawk
Mr Rudd has three children and is independently wealthy because of the business success of his wife, Therese Rein, the founder of the Ingeus empire which bids for contracts to assist disabled people back into work.

JFnK jr?

PS First with it's Bush's fault!

28 posted on 11/26/2007 2:22:29 PM PST by rocksblues (Just enforce the law!)
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To: Ingtar

Clear. I was mostly just commenting on the article itself.
Shame too to see Costello out of the picture.


29 posted on 11/26/2007 2:25:24 PM PST by Dagnabitt (Si se puede con Huckabee!)
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To: knighthawk
Sounds like Australians have elected their own Dennis Kucinich.
30 posted on 11/26/2007 2:25:46 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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To: DoughtyOne

“During the campaign Mr Rudd, who speaks fluent Mandarin and has lived in China...”

I will bet you Rudd’s “fluency” in Mandarin is like George’s “fluency” in Spanish…nada, zip, nothing.


31 posted on 11/26/2007 2:27:41 PM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: cripplecreek
Australia has a queen?

Elizabeth II. Australia is part of the Commonwealth realm.

32 posted on 11/26/2007 2:28:57 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: knighthawk

I have never believed in MONARCHIES. They are rarefied welfare recipients on the permanent dole at the expense of the taxpayer. They have no place in the 21st century. I might also add that we as Americans and especially conservative “republicans” with a small “r” should begin in earnest to export the ideology and principles of our founding fathers. For far too long we have imported the failed ideas of others. It’s time to fight back, the cultural and ideological war is just as important as the one we fight with bullets and bombs. We cannot afford to win on one front and yet lose on the other.


33 posted on 11/26/2007 2:30:32 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: cripplecreek
Australia has a queen?


34 posted on 11/26/2007 2:31:53 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Cacique

Why should we fault Australia for doing what we wanted to do back in 1776?


35 posted on 11/26/2007 2:32:34 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: knighthawk

36 posted on 11/26/2007 2:37:51 PM PST by Constitution Day (Everything was fine until membership lost its privileges)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

You may be right.


37 posted on 11/26/2007 2:40:57 PM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: knighthawk

To amend the Australian constitution to make Australian a republic, the measure must:

1. Pass a majority of States (4 out of 6)

2. Pass a majority of the whole number of voters nationwide.

Here are the votes in 2000:

States, must win 4

New South Wales - 46.43%

Victoria - 49.84%

Queensland - 37.44%

Western Australia - 41.48%

South Australia - 43.57%

Tasmania - 40.37%

Territories, national vote only:

Australian Capital Territory - 63.27%

Northern Territory - 48.77%

National total - 45.13%

The republicans “might” be able to get a nationwide majority if they run up the numbers in Victoria, New South Wales, and the Australian Capital Territory. (Canberra, whose votes only count in the nationwide vote, not the state vote.)

The question is can the republicans get four states? In 1999 they didn’t top 50% in any of them.

I’m wondering in 2010 if they will do much better?


38 posted on 11/26/2007 2:46:24 PM PST by GreenLanternCorps (Thompson for President: 2008, 2012: Jindal for President 2016, 2020)
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To: knighthawk

Is that true? Did Howard actually lose his parliment seat?


39 posted on 11/26/2007 2:47:19 PM PST by Norman Bates
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To: Slapshot68

“He said yesterday that he would withdraw Australian troops from Iraq

Yes it will suck losing those 800 military personnel. /sarc. Good riddence.


40 posted on 11/26/2007 2:51:22 PM PST by napscoordinator
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