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Gun Rights and Presidential Politics
Townhall.com ^ | November 26, 2007 | Ken Blackwell

Posted on 11/26/2007 5:24:25 AM PST by Kaslin

The debate over individual gun rights just has become a front line issue in the 2008 presidential campaign. The United States Supreme Court decision to hear arguments on District of Columbia v. Heller, the D.C. gun ban case, guarantees it.

In the District of Columbia, it is a crime to have a handgun. It also is a crime to have shotguns or rifles unless they are unloaded and disabled. Ordinary people cannot have a gun, even in their own homes.

Earlier this year, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia struck down the law as unconstitutional. The court said the Second Amendment does not allow a law like it because it keeps Americans living in D.C. from exercising their Second Amendment rights.

Now the Supreme Court will weigh in on whether or not the framers of the Constitution actually bestowed a right to government over the people in the Second Amendment to the Bill of Rights.

The answer seems obvious.

The Bill of Rights details individual rights that government cannot take away. When the framers referred to the people, they meant the individual, not the government. Most Americans get it. Even liberal legal scholars like Alan Dershowitz and Laurence Tribe get it when it comes to the individual rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment. They believe the clear wording of the document favors the individual’s gun rights.

Though it seems to escape the mayor of D.C., Adrian Fenty, who thinks Constitutional rights can be legislated away. “It’s the will of the people of the District of Columbia that has to be respected,” Mr. Fenty recently said at a news conference. “We should have the right to make our own decisions.”

With nearly 100 million American gun owners and a fluid nominating process in both primaries, Second Amendment voters matter. In fact, their votes could be the deciding factor in the volatile Iowa and New Hampshire contests propelling the winner into the pivotal South Carolina and Florida primaries.

Second Amendment voters are strict constitutionalists and will be closely watching how the presidential candidates address the gun issue.

The president is sworn to uphold “the right of the people to keep and bear arms.” The duty to protect the Constitution and uphold the law requires a firm, clear belief one way or the other on the rights of Americans to buy and own a gun.

Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson, John McCain, and Mike Huckabee are staunch Second Amendment advocates and all oppose most restrictions on gun rights including D.C.’s. Rudy Giuliani favors some restrictions but opposes the D.C. gun ban. He thinks the Supreme Court should strike it down permanently.

Now let’s hear what Hillary Clinton, Barrack Obama, and John Edwards have to say. What do they believe the framers meant by the “people”? The answers will speak volumes about their views on a wide range of issues.

Over the past few years, a heated national debate has raged over what the Constitution says about presidential power, war, the environment, education, health care, the reach of federal power, affirmative action, abortion, and immigration.

The American people have the right to know how a presidential candidate would interpret the Constitution’s most basic tenet — the rights of individuals over government.

The former president of the National Riffle Association, Sandy Froman, recently explained the importance of the case and how it could impact Americans nationwide. The first Jewish-American to hold that office in the 136-year history of the NRA, and a respected colleague, Ms. Froman has a very personal reason for her unwavering advocacy of individual gun rights. Nearly 25 years ago, she was the victim of a home invasion. In a recent column, Ms. Froman explained, “I learned first hand that the right of self-defense means nothing unless you also have the means of self-defense.”

Anti-Second Amendment advocates also understand the importance of the case. They hope the court guts the gun rights allowed in the Bill of Rights.

“We’re nervous,” president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, Paul Helmke, told the Washington Post. “Anytime you go to the Supreme Court, you could end up with all sorts of gun laws being called into question.”

Presidential candidates whose views on the Second Amendment have been questioned should step up and detail their position on this issue. Mrs. Clinton, and Messrs. Obama and Edwards should explain their views. Mr. Giuliani should explain more fully why he opposes the D.C. gun ban but supports other restrictions on Second Amendment rights.

The American people expect leadership. Part of being a leader is answering the tough questions openly and forthrightly. On this issue, the court will do the heavy lifting. The candidates’ views, however, will certainly leave a mark.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 2008; banglist; elections; fredthompson; giuliani; huckabee; kenblackwell; mccain; romney
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To: MrB
Well, specifically, yes, but in a more general way, the way SCOTUS can sometimes find government powers enumerated without words in a document specifically designed to explicitly list every power the government was allowed.

The case is different with individual rights. The benefit of the doubt is supposed to go to the states over the feds and to the individual over any level of government unless one can find in the Constitution words to the contrary. So individual rights don't have to be listed to be valid, like govt powers.

However, even here SCOTUS can err, as in Roe by asserting an unlisted individual right (abortion) that conflicts with a listed individual right (life), or by exalting the feds over states on a matter that is not properly theirs to regulate. In Roe, I believe they did both.

21 posted on 11/26/2007 7:08:55 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: MrB

Ooh! I like that! Sign me up.


22 posted on 11/26/2007 7:09:59 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Kaslin
Adrian Fenty is either insane, stupid, or evil.

People like this fall into one of 3 catagories.

Some are insane. They do not recognize factual history or logic. Something is fundamentally broken inside their heads.

Some are Stupid. They just don't have the intellectual capacity to think for themselves. They parrot what others tell them as they cannot conceive of some ideas on their own.

Some are Evil. They know what they do is wrong. They don't care. Their goal is control over us. No matter how high the bodies must be stacked.

Adrian, IMO, flips back and forth between Evil and Stupid.

23 posted on 11/26/2007 7:11:50 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: MrB

I know that.


24 posted on 11/26/2007 7:12:02 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Kaslin
From the New York Times, March 8, 1994----

Democratic lawmakers praised the Mayor's push for gun control. "It would be great if Mayor Giuliani could become the point Republican pushing comprehensive gun control legislation," said Representative Charles E. Schumer, the Brooklyn Democrat who is the leading proponent of handgun control in the House of Representatives.

A liberal bully President Giuliani and Chuckie Schumer will have LOTS of chances to work together in a bi-partisan manner on this and many other issues in Rudy's liberal social agenda. /s

25 posted on 11/26/2007 7:12:42 AM PST by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will ENERGIZE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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To: Still Thinking

Just finished a great book - “Politically Incorrect Guide to the Constitution”.

The federal gov’t nearly IMMEDIATELY reneged on the promise of enumerated powers. (Marshall)

Basically, there were those that were nationalists - Hamilton - that wanted a supreme national gov’t, and the states wouldn’t ratify, so they argued enumeration until ratification, then governed as they wished anyway.


26 posted on 11/26/2007 7:17:57 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: stockstrader
#1 reason I will not, cannot, vote for Rudy. Willard and John are right behind him and for the same reason.

No more gun grabbers. EVER...

27 posted on 11/26/2007 7:18:06 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: longtermmemmory

the difference being; you’ll occsionally see giuliani in a dress :)


28 posted on 11/26/2007 7:18:56 AM PST by absolootezer0 (Only two products have come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. Coincidence? I think not.)
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To: MrB
A lot of us have noted Marshall's calumny in subverting things almost from the outset. The language of the legislation used to pass the BoR, the 14th Amendment, and subsequent court cases have all been part of the "tug of war" between those wanting more government power, and those wanting freedom.

It's a "tug of war" we're losing BTW... just in case anyone is keeping score.

29 posted on 11/26/2007 7:19:50 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: MrB
Basically, there were those that were nationalists - Hamilton - that wanted a supreme national gov?t, and the states wouldn?t ratify, so they argued enumeration until ratification, then governed as they wished anyway.

Hmmm, yes. Hamilton, not my favorite founder.

30 posted on 11/26/2007 7:27:29 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: MrB

In Hamilton’s defense, he definitely wasn’t a gun grabber ...


31 posted on 11/26/2007 7:33:19 AM PST by eastsider
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To: Beagle8U

Correct, Mitt strongly supported and passed an “ugly gun” ban.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk1bJOpYUqE

Some things just can’t be fixed by joining the NRA two weeks before running for office.


32 posted on 11/26/2007 7:35:18 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian
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To: padre35

The 2000 Presidential election was won by Bush, because of Gore’s stance on banning guns. All Gore had to do to be President is win his own home state, but even the Tennesee voters did not like his stance on Gun rights.


33 posted on 11/26/2007 7:36:46 AM PST by thirst4truth
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To: TheThirdRuffian
Check the transcript of the second debate this year.

Romney clearly stated that he STILL supports a assault weapons ban!

He’s running national now so he is talking a national ban!

34 posted on 11/26/2007 7:52:29 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: thirst4truth
The only reason the vote was as close as it was is that Bush is VERY weak on 2A issues. His support for a renewed AWB wasn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

His failure to over turn his Fathers, or even Clinton's, anti-RKBA EO's speaks volumes.

Enough of this crap. Hunter and Thompson are both far and above any of the other GOP contenders. On a whole host of issues. Why are we even discussing anyone else?

Are we willing to risk another "Brady Bill" Bob Dole election just because Rudy and Willard are media hyped darlings that are good at giving the illusion of "electability"?

35 posted on 11/26/2007 7:55:13 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse

Who the heck is Willard? From yours and other posts it sounds like it’s Romney, but I don’t get the reference.


36 posted on 11/26/2007 8:03:09 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Still Thinking

Willard is “Mitt” Romney’s real first name.


37 posted on 11/26/2007 8:09:12 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse
Are we willing to risk another "Brady Bill" Bob Dole election just because Rudy and Willard are media hyped darlings that are good at giving the illusion of "electability"?

Not me, deeds not words are what counts. Rudy has proven himself to be a gun grabber and a homosexual special rights guy, say NO to Rudy!!! Electibility is a shame, the Constitution and America is what is at risk, big time!!

38 posted on 11/26/2007 8:10:04 AM PST by thirst4truth
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To: Dead Corpse

I see why he goes by Mitt. Or better yet, just invent a new first name out of whole cloth. “Mitt” ain’t all that great.


39 posted on 11/26/2007 8:10:28 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: thirst4truth
Electibility is a shame, the Constitution and America is what is at risk, big time!!

And it is past due time more folks realize this...

40 posted on 11/26/2007 8:11:59 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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