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The Nazis Were Marxists
American Thinker ^ | November 25, 2007 | Bruce Walker

Posted on 11/25/2007 11:50:06 AM PST by ECM

The Nazis were Marxists, no matter what our tainted academia and corrupt media wishes us to believe. Nazis, Bolsheviks, the Ku Klux Klan, Maoists, radical Islam and Facists -- all are on the Left, something that should be increasingly apparent to decent, honorable people in our times. The Big Lie which places Nazis on some mythical Far Right was created specifically so that there would be a bogeyman manacled on the wrists of those who wish us to move "too far" in the direction of Ronald Reagan or Barry Goldwater.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: cpusa; hitler; marxists; nazi; socialism; socialists; totalitariansim
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To: DaGman

Hitler invaded Russia because he hated Slavs, which Russians are. He wanted more living space. Soviet Union and Nazis Germany were allies up until 1941.


81 posted on 11/25/2007 2:44:53 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Bunnies=Sodomites)
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To: boop

“Rush once said that the only difference between socialists and communists is that a socialist will let you live if you disagree with them.”

That is an important distinction!

If I remember right, communists (sometimes) believed that socialism was an intermediate step on the path to communism. If so, the socialist would allow you to live ‘for now.’


82 posted on 11/25/2007 2:46:40 PM PST by ChessExpert (Reagan dismantled the Russian empire of 21 conquered nations)
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To: SolidWood

Stalin believed that nation comes first. He even said that to Lenin and caused conflict with Trotsky. Communism and Nationalism come hand in hand. North Korea is a good example of that.


83 posted on 11/25/2007 2:47:40 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Bunnies=Sodomites)
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To: ECM

Nazis, communists, socialists and today’s Democrats all want to seize the means of production for their political (power) ends.


84 posted on 11/25/2007 2:53:07 PM PST by P.O.E.
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To: FreedomPoster; Madam Theophilus

The Road to Serfdom, by F.A. Hayek

HEAVEN ON EARTH: THE RISE AND FALL OF SOCIALISM by Joshua Muravchik.

I have read these books and think they are excellent. I think you would enjoy:

The Making of Modern Economics: The Lives and Ideas of the Great Thinkers,
By Mark Skousen


85 posted on 11/25/2007 3:05:28 PM PST by ChessExpert (Reagan dismantled the Russian empire of 21 conquered nations)
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To: Ptarmigan

That was a “marriage of convenience” until Hitler saw fit to terminate the relationship. It does not mean Hitler liked Marxism in any way.


86 posted on 11/25/2007 3:10:43 PM PST by DaGman
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To: Ptarmigan
I think you should see Post #79 too.
87 posted on 11/25/2007 3:13:12 PM PST by DaGman
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To: ECM

>>>The Nazis were Marxists, no matter what our tainted academia and corrupt media wishes us to believe.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1235065/posts
EXCERPTS FROM NAKED COMMUNIST

Former FBI agent, Cleon Skoussen, in 1958, in his book, THE NAKED COMMUNIST

Excerpts from Chapter 8, Communism and World War 2

Page 156:

The Rise of Adolf Hitler and Nazism in Germany

It is said that Communism was largely responsible for the rise of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party. It will be recalled that when the German Kaiser capitulated in 1918 the Communists tried to take over Germany. Anticommunist political groups immediately sprang up and through a frantic coalition they prevented the Communists from seizing power. It was this anticommunist atmosphere that Adolf Hitler began his political career.

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...[Stalin] recognized in the Nazi dictator a formidable opponent of his own breed and kind. He saw that Hitler was shrewd and ruthless. He was completely amoral. He had no compunction whatever against violence, the purging of his own people, the use of deceit in propaganda, or the sacrifice of millions of lives to achieve personal power. Materialism had produced precisely the same product in Germany that it had produced in Russia. Although called by different names, Nazism and Communism were aimed at the same identical mark and were forged in very similar ideological molds.

OPINION:

Sounds like the Log Cabin Republicans and the Victory Fund Democrats.


88 posted on 11/25/2007 3:36:49 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: ECM

Never forget that NAZI stands for National SOCIALISTS German Worker’s Party. They were SOCIALISTS.


89 posted on 11/25/2007 3:57:00 PM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (Swift as the wind; Calmly majestic as a forest; Steady as the mountains.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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90 posted on 11/25/2007 4:10:30 PM PST by SJackson (seems to me it is entirely proper to start a Zionist State around Jerusalem, T Roosevelt, neocon)
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To: ECM

There are several variants of socialism. One variant is communism where the state owns all property, and prices are determined by the state, and profits go to the state. This is socialism de jure. Another variant is Hitler’s fascistic version where property was privately owned but controlled by the state, prices were determined by the state, and profits and wages were controlled by the state. This was de facto socialism. Both were irrational altruistic, collectivistic, and statistic.


91 posted on 11/25/2007 4:24:28 PM PST by mjp (Live & let live. I don't want to live in Mexico, Marxico, or Muslimico. Statism & high taxes suck)
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To: SJackson

Thanks for the ping


92 posted on 11/25/2007 4:30:13 PM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Duncan Hunter 08!)
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To: mamelukesabre

Reagan often alluded to Hayek in talking about freedom vs the evil empire.


93 posted on 11/25/2007 4:43:42 PM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: ECM

The Communists and the Nazis were in a close battle for Germany for a while until the Nazis won. Maybe they are very similar since they both descended from positivist science but they were definitely different groups of people.


94 posted on 11/25/2007 4:46:04 PM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: ECM
Marxism is internationalist, whereas NAZI-style fascism was fiercely nationalistic (obviously).

The Left-Right political continuum that is popular these days is stupidly inaccurate; it should be libertarian-socialist.

95 posted on 11/25/2007 4:48:48 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Don't taze me, bro!!)
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To: weegee
Only thing was he publicly protested the US going to war against Nazi Germany until Hitler betrayed his beloved Uncle Joe Stalin.


96 posted on 11/25/2007 4:54:49 PM PST by Polybius
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To: ECM

the nazis were marxists, and so are the dems in this country.


97 posted on 11/25/2007 4:56:24 PM PST by television is just wrong (deport all illegal aliens NOW. Put all AMERICANS TO WORK FIRST. END Welfare)
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To: wtc911

And yet....

http://constitutionalistnc.tripod.com/hitler-leftist/index.html

“We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.” —Adolf Hitler

Hitler was intent on having a community of mutual interest that desired mutual success instead of one that was divided over the control of money or differing values.

THE COMMON INTEREST BEFORE SELF-INTEREST -
THAT IS THE SPIRIT OF THE PROGRAM. BREAKING OF THE THRALDOM OF INTEREST - THAT IS THE KERNEL OF NATIONAL SOCIALISM.

(Speech of May 1, 1927. Quoted by Toland, 1976, p. 306)


98 posted on 11/25/2007 4:58:43 PM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: sgtyork

Consider the German political audience in 1927.


99 posted on 11/25/2007 5:03:34 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Lancer_N3502A

I like to think of it as follows: Naziism is National Socialism, and what we call Communism is INTERNATIONAL Socialism.


100 posted on 11/25/2007 5:11:24 PM PST by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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