You've gotta love Ed Bang's comment - "The more of something you have, the less valuable each individual piece becomes" - We have one Ed Bangs and that's one way too many. Will someone please fire this clown? We can't afford any more of this Bozo's lassons.
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Pretty easy to increase 20-30% a year if this is what they mean by "other prey."
Leviticus 26:22
They should look into dogs to help guard their herds.
These poor unappreciated wolves need to be humanely trapped, transported, and released some place where they are truly loved and appreciated, such as Washington DC, New York, San Francisco, or Hollywood.
Simple solution. The envirowhackos can put THEIR money where their mouths are. Every time a wolf kills any livestock, the envirowhackos must pay the rancher 10 times the value of the animal.
cattle ranchers like Petrich in the Paradise Valley north of Yellowstone...
Although his wolf kills have earned praise from fellow ranchers, Petrich shrugs off the attention, saying he shot the wolves out of necessity, to protect his ranch and his family.
“This is something we’re going to have to keep doing,” he said.
“I didn’t ask for this. ... We’re just going to have to cope with it however we can.”
Ranchers won’t be able to just let their “meals on hoof” just wander around without keeping an eye on them. I’m all broken up about that.
To me, this sounds the same as someone complaining that their car got broken into in Chicago when they left a couple of fifties sitting on the front seat.
“If you have more wolves than you have now, it’s really going to start causing a lot of problems.”
They are already killing off the herds of elk in Yellowstone and National Teton area.
For the life of me, I don’t understand why ranchers ranch cattle instead of Buffalo. I only buy and eat buffalo meat. It tastes better than beef, is lower in cholesterol and saturated fats, and buffalo can protect their own against wolves, as well as being better able to withstand climatic conditions in the west.
Borrowed this from you :
” For all the wolf and mountain lion lovers out there, a bullet in the head is totally reasonable when a predator invades and threatens man, livestock, pets or whatever.
I have no sympathy for the predator and all sympathy for the pet, and the people protecting their dog or their livestock.
The bullet and the shovel are the best defense against the envirowackos who think wildlife habitat trumps established human habitat.”
I was out two days ago about 20 miles east of town and got this great photo of a wolf track right next to the trail. I wish I knew how to post photos so I could show it off.
I’m going to be an iconclast here. I like the wolves. (I also like wearing the wolves - my parka has a wolf ruff sown there by my lovely wife.) I have nothing against shooting them, either. Having said that...
We have guns. We have machines that we can use to hunt down the wolves and kill them at our leisure. We have the technology which can allow us to easily control and contain the wolves. Just like I don’t feel comfortable with governments and regulations controlling the lives of people, I don’t like the idea of pushing wildlife into little corners of our world. Maybe it’s because I grew up back East and I’ve seen a world without uncontrolled nature. I’d let the wolves remain, hunt a few to keep them wary, and use technology to protect ourselves and our property. Wiping them out, though, would be a shame.
The story’s about a rancher a few miles from me.
It’s understated, he ain’t the only one suffering and the treehuggers and their wonderful wolves isn’t the only government plague that ranchers and farmers encounter.
Read through the thread and decided to save my breath with some of these flatlanders, especially after the blather about us rich farmers rolling around in that $90B “Farm” Subsidy, the suggestion that we all switch to bison or the idea that all there is to ranching is to turn the stock out to graze and count the money after slaughter.
Sometimes, I consider the costs and try to figure out why I got into this business, but with the state of the BLM and Forest Service land all around me, some fool will drop a match in the wrong place next summer and burn me out anyway.
After last summer, Grandma had me move most of our stuff into town, so I can just walk away from it.
Those flatlanders might get a better grip on the situation after they have to get their meat from China.
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I’m pretty much divided on this. I like the fact wolves have been saved from extinction...but I understand the ranchers concerns.