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1 posted on 11/24/2007 2:57:28 PM PST by blam
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Mitochondrial DNA - mtDNA

The Romanovs - The Last Russian Royal Family

In July 1991, nine bodies were exhumed from a shallow grave just outside Ekaterinburg, Russia. Circumstantial evidence, along with mitochondrial DNA sequencing and matches, gave strong evidence to the remains being those of the Romanovs, the last Russian Royals who were executed on July 18, 1918. The following sequences for Tsar Nicholas II, his cousin, Count Nicholai Trubetskoy, Tsarina Alexandra, and Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh, are taken from Bryan Sykes book, "The Seven Daughters of Eve."

Name Haplo mtDNA Sequence
Tsar Nicholas Romanov T 16126C, 16169Y*, 16294T, 16296T 73G, 263G, 315.1C
Count Trubetskoy T 16126C, 16169Y, 16294T, 16296T 73G, 263G, 315.1C

*The Tsar's sequence contains a new mutation at position 169, a state referred to as heteroplasmy - the existence of more than one mitochondrial type in the cells of an individual, i.e., the presence of both normal and mutant mtDNA in a single individual. The remains of his brother, Grand Duke of Russia, Georgij Romanov were exhumed, and the results were identical to the Tsar's, including the heteroplasmy at 16169Y. Mitosearch: DQR2R

Name Haplo mtDNA Sequence
Tsarina Alexandra H 16111T, 16357C 263G, 315.1C
Prince Philip H 16111T, 16357C 263G, 315.1C

Tsarina Alexandra, the three children buried with her, and Prince Philip's mitochondrial DNA were an exact match on 740 tested nucleotides. Mitosearch: 2ZACX

Stanford University's, Alec Knight's 2003 paper, "Molecular, forensic and haplotypic inconsistencies regarding the identity of the Ekaterinburg remains" presents a conclusion that the identity of the Ekaterinburg remains has not been established.

(FYI, mtDNA haplogroup H is the most common in Europe.)

2 posted on 11/24/2007 3:04:04 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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A truly handsome royal family unlike some that remain today.


3 posted on 11/24/2007 3:04:34 PM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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GGG Ping.

4 posted on 11/24/2007 3:05:24 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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This is not passing the smell test.


5 posted on 11/24/2007 3:06:14 PM PST by spanalot
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It is because their murder symbolizes the start of a diabolic era in world history. And now that has all come to an end.

I am not so sure about that--the ending part.

10 posted on 11/24/2007 3:29:48 PM PST by stripes1776
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Scientist: DNA Disputes Russian Tsar Remains
Discovery News | 7-14-2004
Posted on 07/14/2004 12:04:34 PM EDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1171242/posts

Alexei and Maria Romanov: I Possibly Know Where Bones Are in Russia
Posted on 12/25/2005 5:58:41 PM EST by GermanBusiness
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1546954/posts

Remains of Czar Nicholas II’s Son May Have Been Found
FOXNews.com | August 24, 2007 | Associated Press
Posted on 08/24/2007 6:54:00 AM EDT by NCDragon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1885842/posts

Remains may be children of last czar
Yahoo | 9/28 | Mike Eckel
Posted on 09/28/2007 8:47:14 PM EDT by darkangel82
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1903835/posts


12 posted on 11/24/2007 3:47:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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13 posted on 11/24/2007 3:47:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Russian Court Rules on Czar’s Killing
AP | 11/09/07 | BAGILA BUKHARBAYEVA
Posted on 11/11/2007 4:44:53 PM EST by Tailgunner Joe
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“Russia’s highest court on Thursday refused to recognize the executed last czar Nicholas II and his family as victims of political repression — a ruling Kremlin critics said was dictated by the government’s reluctance to condemn the bloodiest chapters of the country’s Communist past.”


15 posted on 11/24/2007 3:51:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Cleon Skoussen covered this history nice in his book the Naked Communist. This book is out of print but shows up on Amazon or eBay now and then. I really recommend efforts to find and read it.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1235065/posts
EXCERPTS FROM NAKED COMMUNIST


17 posted on 11/24/2007 4:20:13 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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This might be hard to believe, but two words are noticeably absent from this story. Those words are communist and communism.


20 posted on 11/24/2007 4:54:49 PM PST by sig226 (New additions to the list of democrat criminals - see my profile)
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Sidebar:

RE: A nice book (and plenty expensive according to Amazon.com!) that I
checked out from the local library a few months ago.
(Good thing I didn’t lose it!)
The book has a lot of nice photos of the jewels and some of the Faberge
Easter Eggs; there’s also a bit about the “missing” jewels...
the ones that didn’t go on sale when the Commies were trying to raise
money a few years after The Revolution.
And haven’t yet been found/accounted for.

Jewels of the Tsars: The Romanovs and Imperial Russia
by Prince Michael of Greece
http://www.amazon.com/Jewels-Tsars-Romanovs-Imperial-Russia/dp/086565171X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1195952337&sr=1-1


21 posted on 11/24/2007 5:04:02 PM PST by VOA
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The girl on the far right looks like someone I’ve seen before, but cannot place where. May be an actress...or may be one of my relatives.


29 posted on 11/25/2007 5:22:43 PM PST by madison10
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