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Scientist who ignited stem-cell war says it's over
WorldNetDaily ^ | 11/24/07 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 11/24/2007 10:59:45 AM PST by wagglebee

The scientist who helped ignite cultural and political controversy with the use of embryos in stem-cell research believes his new discovery – using ordinary adult skin cells – means the war is virtually over.

"A decade from now, this will be just a funny historical footnote," James A. Thomson told the New York Times in an interview.

Thomson's laboratory at the University of Wisconsin was one of two that announced Tuesday a new way to turn ordinary human skin cells into what appear to be embryonic stem cells without using a human embryo.

The technique involves adding four genes to ordinary adult skin cells.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; cell; deathindustry; funnylittlefootnote; geneticcannibalism; moralabsolutes; prolife; scientists; stem; stemcell; stemcellresearch; stemcells
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To: Amelia
maybe "more embryos created than they feel capable of giving birth to" would make more sense?
61 posted on 11/25/2007 5:30:58 AM PST by Amelia (*PBC - posting before coffee)
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To: All

The science is in and the discussion is over.


62 posted on 11/25/2007 5:31:43 AM PST by newnhdad
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To: taxcontrol
I can very reasonably argue that BECAUSE the President stood his ground, this recent break through became possible.

Literally :)

Bush Bears Fruit New discoveries pave the way for ethical stem-cell research, thanks to the president’s policies.

63 posted on 11/25/2007 5:32:55 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: AHerald

LOL. I read your mind :)


64 posted on 11/25/2007 5:34:07 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: wagglebee
"A decade from now, this will be just a funny historical footnote,"

..and if President Bush had not funded alternative research so that embryo's would not be destroyed it would have been a Holocaust.

65 posted on 11/25/2007 5:36:00 AM PST by mware
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To: Amelia
A baby, a fetus, and a blastocyte are different things, the same as an egg, a tadpole, and a frog are different things

You are kidding right. They are ALL stages in the development of the SAME organism. Just as infant, toddler, child, preteen, teen, young adult, middle age, and old age are stages in our development.

66 posted on 11/25/2007 5:44:48 AM PST by mware
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To: mware
They are ALL stages in the development of the SAME organism.

Obviously. I think I made that point.

67 posted on 11/25/2007 5:48:30 AM PST by Amelia (*PBC - posting before coffee)
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To: Amelia

Different things do not equate to different stage of development of the same individual.


68 posted on 11/25/2007 5:49:51 AM PST by mware
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To: wagglebee
I didn't read this amazing medical breakthrough in the headlines of the St. Petersburg Times this morning.

Why not?

(.....no answer necessary)

Leni

69 posted on 11/25/2007 5:51:41 AM PST by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !!!)
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To: mware

You’re missing the point entirely. Perhaps you also need another cup of coffee?


70 posted on 11/25/2007 5:59:15 AM PST by Amelia (*PBC - posting before coffee)
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To: Yaelle
I did my senior paper on Jonathan's work. It really made an impression on me. I've stuck with "Thou shalt not kill" except in self defense all my life since all laws have exceptions.

There is no way that "self defense" can be inserted into abortion "so called" rights.

If women were told...well, we'll have to take off your right arm at the same time otherwise it won't work, would they proceed to have an abortion?

71 posted on 11/25/2007 5:59:21 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Old Professer

This is about creating “organ stores”. It’s gonna get pricey with the “preservation” necessary. What’s new!!


72 posted on 11/25/2007 6:01:53 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: MinuteGal
I didn't read this amazing medical breakthrough in the headlines of the St. Petersburg Times this morning.

It was all over the news Wednesday and/or Thursday - maybe you were cooking.

The article this WND piece was plagiarized from appeared in the NY Times on Thursday.

73 posted on 11/25/2007 6:02:45 AM PST by Amelia (*PBC - posting before coffee)
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To: bert

Love Charlie...Not afraid of anyone!!


74 posted on 11/25/2007 6:03:42 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: wagglebee
"It’s very fortunate, because this is one of the only things that Bush has held firm on."

This statement is surprising, in view of the President's firm stance on the war against "terrorism", aka "Islamic Fundamentalist".

The job of the U.S. President reminds me of a recent "herding cats" commercial.

75 posted on 11/25/2007 6:17:43 AM PST by RAY (God Bless the USA!)
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To: wagglebee
A decade from now, this will be just a funny historical footnote

Funny? Destroying human embryos is funny? Gads.

76 posted on 11/25/2007 6:20:15 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (Some people are like slinkys, the idea of them tumbling down a flight of stairs makes you smile.)
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To: Amelia
Did you happen to catch if they tied in this breakthrough to the fact that embryonic stem cells are not necessary any more, that entertainment stars pushing embryonic have egg over their face, that the unborn will not be destroyed by the millions, etc?

Unless the media amplifies in its print reportage or sound bites, the incredible message this breakthrough sends is being reported out of context and a is a whitewash of the liberal pressure and obsessions the past couple years.

Methinks the media is NOT fleshing this story out.....but then, I do miss SOME things when I'm cooking, LOL.

Leni

77 posted on 11/25/2007 8:07:31 AM PST by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !!!)
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To: MinuteGal
Did you happen to catch if they tied in this breakthrough to the fact that embryonic stem cells are not necessary any more, that entertainment stars pushing embryonic have egg over their face, that the unborn will not be destroyed by the millions, etc?

I thought I had seen Michael J. Fox mentioned in some of the coverage, but he's not in the article I linked, so maybe not.

The part I think people still aren't getting is that the embryos used in this research largely are not coming from abortion clinics, but from fertility clinics, where millions of embryos are still languishing in suspended animation, because more were created than could be used, and now their "parents" don't know what to do with them. There was a survey published a couple of months ago that said many parents would rather have the embryos used for research that might benefit someone than just "kill" them or allow their biological children to be raised by strangers. I think that would be a difficult decision to make.

I will add that I don't think too many embryos were created out of any "evil" intents, but simply because sometimes all the eggs are fertilized, sometimes not; sometimes no embryos implant, sometimes too many implant, and we don't have the knowledge to tell which will happen in any given case yet.

78 posted on 11/25/2007 8:28:17 AM PST by Amelia (*PBC - posting before coffee)
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To: RAY

I said “one of the only” not the only.


79 posted on 11/25/2007 9:32:19 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Amelia; muawiyah; Barnacle; Hacksaw
My point is, the embryos used for stem cell research don't come from abortion clinics, they come from fertility clinics, and they generally come with the consent of their "parents"

It is still the murder of human life, no matter how you spin it.

80 posted on 11/25/2007 9:55:17 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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