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Archaeological Fact and Fiction: Global Warming
http://www.evaneco.com/?p=819 ^

Posted on 11/24/2007 6:37:59 AM PST by truthfinder9

Archaeologists Kathleen O’Neal Gear and W. Michael Gear began writing their fictional “North America’s Forgotten Past” 17 years ago. The series is set in prehistoric North America and the authors use their archaeological background to recreate a plausible ancient world. Now their 12th book in the series People of the Nightland they tackle global warming. What, some political fiction book? No, not quite:

…the newest novel in their acclaimed “North America’s Forgotten Past” series—the Gears remind us that global warming is not a recent phenomenon. Less than 13,000 years ago, our forebears saw their climate turned upside-down. In a single decade, they saw the great glaciers die—melting away without greenhouses gases superheating their atmosphere…Most of the magnificent, gargantuan animals are gone, and the last of the great melting glaciers are forming a vast chain of five freshwater lakes, encompassing 300,000 square miles, which will one day be known as “the Great Lakes.”

I haven’t read the book yet, but the novel is a reminder that global warming will and has happened with or without us. The website does try some hysteria when it states “Today’s CO2 emissions could easily accelerate the planet’s tendencies toward high-speed global warming, and the great glaciers of the far north could liquefy faster than those of the last Ice Age.”

Really, how do you know that? “High-speed” global warming? Hey, I guess hysteria does sell books. Ask Al Gore. More importantly, we should realize that if prehistoric Americans could survive environmental catastrophe in caves and huts, do we really have a lot to fear?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: algore; envirohysteria; environment; globalwarming
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1 posted on 11/24/2007 6:38:00 AM PST by truthfinder9
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To: truthfinder9
More importantly, we should realize that if prehistoric Americans could survive environmental catastrophe in caves and huts, do we really have a lot to fear?

Well, yes, if the juvenile notion continues that we not only can, but must, try to prevent a reccurence, because... well because some nutballs say so, in the face of millions of years of evidence to the contrary.

Just think, we can have both global warming and economic collapse!

2 posted on 11/24/2007 7:24:26 AM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: truthfinder9

Did they also make reference to the ‘Little Ice Age’?


3 posted on 11/24/2007 7:37:11 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: truthfinder9
we should realize that if prehistoric Americans could survive environmental catastrophe in caves and huts, do we really have a lot to fear?

Folks in those days were nomadic. As the climate changed they moved to follow the game and better conditions. I'm afraid those in our society who believe climate should bend to their personal whims and dictates may have some surprises coming.

4 posted on 11/24/2007 7:51:59 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: truthfinder9

Yeah its funny Global Warmers never discuss the fact that the great lakes region was nothing but a huge ice cube just 15,000 years ago. How did it melt with man around? 15,000 years is just a sneeze in the history of this planet.


5 posted on 11/24/2007 8:09:58 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right

with = without.


6 posted on 11/24/2007 8:10:33 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Beowulf; Defendingliberty

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7 posted on 11/24/2007 8:27:48 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: truthfinder9
I have three questions no global warmist has ever answered for me.

The earth has been much warmer and much colder than it is now. What is the "normal" or appropriate temperature for the earth and how does anyone know?

There used to be about a mile and a half of ice over what is now Central Park in NYC. Was the global warming that melted it a good thing or a bad thing and why?

Mars, the moon and other celestial bodies are warming too. Isn't it likely that the cause of this is also what is causing the earth to warm?

8 posted on 11/24/2007 8:29:08 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: truthfinder9

It begs the question of what caused the “catastrophic” global warming 13,000 years ago when human contribution to the world’s CO2 was almost non existent. It would also be hard to say that having half the northern hemisphere covered in glaciers was somehow superior to a drastically warmer environment.


10 posted on 11/24/2007 9:08:45 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: truthfinder9

Good reading bump


11 posted on 11/24/2007 10:15:16 AM PST by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: muir_redwoods
I have three questions no global warmist has ever answered for me.

The earth has been much warmer and much colder than it is now. What is the "normal" or appropriate temperature for the earth and how does anyone know?

There used to be about a mile and a half of ice over what is now Central Park in NYC. Was the global warming that melted it a good thing or a bad thing and why?

Mars, the moon and other celestial bodies are warming too. Isn't it likely that the cause of this is also what is causing the earth to warm?

I would like to see these questions asked in one of the Republican debates...

12 posted on 11/24/2007 10:25:45 AM PST by eldoradude (Think for yourself!)
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13 posted on 11/24/2007 5:18:38 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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To: muir_redwoods

Here are my questions (also - unanswered!)

1. In the 900’s to 1100’s - it was much warmer than it is now. Greenland was a settled by the Vikings and they had an agricultural community there. England was warm enough to support the cultivation of plants that are not presently grown there. How could this be, and was this a good thing or a bad thing?

2. In the 1600’s, there was a “mini-Ice Age”. The Vikings had long since abandoned Greenland. The Thames River would routinely freeze solid during the winter. Europe had problems with the shortened growing season. What caused the previous warm period to change to very cold period, and was this good or bad?

3. The mini-Ice age ended and we had a warming. By the 20th century, we had warmed up significantly, but not quite as warm as at was in the 900’s - 1100’s. The majority of the warming in the 20th century happened before 1940’s. What caused this warming, and was it good or bad? Should we hope that the climate warms further, to what it was in the 900’s - 1100’s?

Mike


14 posted on 11/24/2007 6:28:44 PM PST by Vineyard
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15 posted on 11/24/2007 8:08:18 PM PST by Reform Canada (Kyoto=>More Unemployment=>More Poverty=>More Homeless=>More Crime=>More Rape & Murder)
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To: Bernard Marx
Folks in those days were nomadic. As the climate changed they moved to follow the game and better conditions.

Some. But near here in the Shenandoah Valley, some folks live in the same spot for 2000 years (11k to 9k years ago). At the beginning of the period there was permanent snow cover at 3k elevation on the Blue Ridge so life was no picnic. Compared to that, all us nomads will be gone in the blink of an eye.

16 posted on 11/24/2007 8:16:03 PM PST by palmer
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To: Vineyard
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17 posted on 11/24/2007 9:56:48 PM PST by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: slowhandluke

BFL


18 posted on 11/25/2007 4:50:48 AM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Reform Canada; Always Right

Thanks for the pings (I’m catching up after having a houseful of company). I’ve read some of the books in this series and they are good.

Alwaysright, I’ve had those same questions. I took a museum tour the other day, and during the dinosaur section, found out that one of the reasons for the die-off of the mastadons in our area was because of an ice-age about 13,000-15,000 years ago. Prior to that point, our climate was much, much warmer than it is now. The advance and recession of the LIA in Europe coincides with the advance and retreat of the Dark Ages (and the plague). Warmer is much, much healthier than colder in terms of weather-related deaths and illnesses.


19 posted on 11/26/2007 4:06:10 AM PST by alwaysconservative (Democrats are the party of the rich because they use other people's money for their "good" ideas)
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To: slowhandluke

Bookmark bump, and thanks!


20 posted on 11/26/2007 4:07:22 AM PST by alwaysconservative (Democrats are the party of the rich because they use other people's money for their "good" ideas)
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