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Thompson: New York Is Atypical City
AP ^ | 11/23/07 | PHILIP ELLIOTT

Posted on 11/23/2007 3:14:49 PM PST by ansel12

BRISTOL, N.H. (AP) — Presidential hopeful Fred Thompson said Friday that New York City isn't a model for the rest of the country and that Rudy Giuliani should stop basing his stances on his time as that city's mayor.

Thompson, campaigning at a New Hampshire gun store with stuffed moose and deer overhead, told reporters that Giuliani too often turns to his time as New York mayor to explain his support for stronger gun restrictions.

"He relates everything to New York City. Well, New York City is not emblematic of the rest of the country, I don't think. I think the sentiments of those people in the rest of the country are in support of the Second Amendment — which is where I've always been and I don't think he's ever been," Thompson said.

The former Tennessee senator and "Law & Order" actor badly trails Giuliani in New Hampshire polls, in part because Thompson has spent so little time in the state. On Friday, he planned to attend a town hall-style meeting at a Veterans of Foreign Wars hall.

Thompson is trying to show differences between himself and Giuliani, who trails former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and Sen. John McCain in the latest CNN-WMUR-TV poll conducted by the University of New Hampshire Survey Center. Giuliani polls at 16 percent, far short of Romney's 33 percent support.

Thompson, who fares relatively well in national polls, posted only 4 percent support.

Gun rights is a key issue among libertarian-leaning primary voters in New Hampshire.

"(Giuliani) simply supported just about every gun control legislation that came down the pike. I just disagree with him on that," Thompson said. "I saw he was at bill signing ceremonies with (New York Sen.) Chuck Schumer and President Clinton and others for gun control legislation over the years. Of course, he's not as outspoken about it any more."

Thompson, however, is.

"I used to have my own skeet shoot," Thompson boasted as he wandered through the gun shop and bought his children gifts. "Some of my opponents, you know, have a bad record or no records. I have a solid record. ... I'm not embarrassed to remind anybody of it."

A Giuliani spokeswoman said Thompson should be careful with his rhetoric.

"Coming from a man who lives in the Beltway, who is a Washington insider and lobbyist and who played the role Rudy Giuliani actually lived on a television series, I am not sure what to make of the senator's comments, except to say results are results," Katie Levinson said.

"Time and again as U.S. attorney, the third-ranking official in the Reagan Justice Department and as mayor of New York, Rudy Giuliani delivered, and no amount of political posturing will change that," she said.

Thompson also said the Democrats would do everything they could to end gun rights.

"They were against gun rights for a long time and they paid for it at the polls," he said. "I don't think Americans think taking guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens makes for a safer America. Just the opposite."


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KEYWORDS: 911; bang; crossdresser; dragqueen; electionpresident; elections; fredthompson; gop; gungrabber; guns; newhampshire; newyorkcity; republicans; rudygiuliani; thompson
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To: OCC

“Forget the rhetoric, would you trust this “man” to run the free world?”

I guess it would put the blue dress in perspective.


21 posted on 11/23/2007 3:59:52 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: Clara Lou; zeebee

Don’t waste your time the guy is a Rudy case.


22 posted on 11/23/2007 4:01:47 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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To: ansel12

“Since that is his belief, I would like to see how he applies that to the city of Washington DC.”

Isn’t Rudy on record for saying the DC crime is due to lack of gun control in surrounding states?


23 posted on 11/23/2007 4:03:51 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: ansel12; zeebee

Oh—and such a mature one. What’s a cross-dresser-loving Rudiphile [redundant, I know] doing at FR? This is a conservative site.


24 posted on 11/23/2007 4:06:15 PM PST by Clara Lou (Thompson '08)
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To: dano1
Another post right from the MSM about Fred’s lack of excitement about the presidency? Personally I am not thrilled about a candidate that wants it so badly that they will say anything or do anything just to get elected. Fred seems like the guy who says “this is what I believe, this is where I stand and if you agree, vote for me”.

I am going to vote for Fred.

25 posted on 11/23/2007 4:07:46 PM PST by Ditter
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To: umgud

“His tough policing practices did.”

You can also credit the strong economy and changing demographics (which also contributed in part to the decline in crime nationwide).


26 posted on 11/23/2007 4:09:42 PM PST by DemEater
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To: ansel12

NYC is NOT, a typical American city!


27 posted on 11/23/2007 4:13:59 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: zeebee
I like Fred a lot. I’d vote for him in the primary if he’d just stop picking his nose on camera.

A liberal would resolve your issue with distaste by passing a law banning nose picking.

28 posted on 11/23/2007 4:17:02 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Clara Lou

The responses to Fred’s statements from his opponents are kinda fun to watch. They can’t argue with him because his positions are usually dead on. I wish these Iowa and NH folks would start seeing the light tho.


29 posted on 11/23/2007 4:21:41 PM PST by cpanter
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To: dano1; mylife

Posting that a lot, aren’t you.

I’ll post my comments on your post, again, on this thread.

I’d recommend not believing everything you read, and half of what you see. I note the sources are anonymous, which immediately raises my suspicions.

I’m not familiar with that site. What is their agenda, generally? Are they shilling for any candidates in particular?

A little searching around reveals this about the site:

# Editor in Chief, John F. Harris (former political editor of The Washington Post)
# Executive Editor, Jim VandeHei (former national political reporter of The Washington Post)

Hmmm. The site was started in January of 2007, so these guys are recent Posties. The chances of them being friends of Conservatives are two: slim, and none.


30 posted on 11/23/2007 4:23:07 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: FreedomPoster

Good information! Thanks for posting!


31 posted on 11/23/2007 4:28:54 PM PST by Clara Lou (Thompson '08)
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To: driftdiver

“Isn’t Rudy on record for saying the DC crime is due to lack of gun control in surrounding states?”


Here is Rudy on the Charlie Rose show, listening to pre 2008 Rudy attack guns, is like listening to pre 2008 Romney defend abortion.

It isn’t just that Rudy does it, but he does it with convincing passion and sincerity, you can tell that he is speaking from the heart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ99sBfdqE0


32 posted on 11/23/2007 4:30:18 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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To: Clara Lou

You’re very welcome.

It’s an important time to analyze sources of material like that.


33 posted on 11/23/2007 4:31:37 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: doorgunner69
NYC in many ways is not even part of the US. Might as well be a foreign country.

It is the world capitol of the U.N.

34 posted on 11/23/2007 4:33:54 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: dano1

A fine post from the head shill for the Pro-Life liberal from Arkansas.


35 posted on 11/23/2007 4:39:36 PM PST by Petronski (Reject the liberal troika: romney, giuliani, mccain)
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To: ansel12

New York City would be an even safer place if the 2nd amendment were honored there.


36 posted on 11/23/2007 4:39:37 PM PST by devere
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To: dano1

dano1 wrote: “Fred has been underwhelming, to put it mildly.”

Right, right. No fire in his belly. We got it.

BTW, I’m still waiting for your reply on the other thread about whether or not you’re associated with the Huckabee campaign.


37 posted on 11/23/2007 4:45:28 PM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: ansel12
Right on FRED!!!!! More $$$ on the way. I am so sick of ROOTY telling me I need NYC fixes for everything. NEWYOKCENTRIC - bite me.
38 posted on 11/23/2007 4:47:12 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Illegal Immigration, a Clear and Present Danger.)
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To: Clara Lou

Fred is hitting all the high marks.


39 posted on 11/23/2007 4:52:28 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: ansel12

I listened to most of it. Turned it off when the words “weapons of mass destruction” came out. That was after he blamed assault weapons for endangering the 38,000 police in NYPD and after he said 90% of the crime is due to guns being brought in from other states and said a federal ban was the only solution.

Thanks for the reminder.


40 posted on 11/23/2007 4:53:01 PM PST by driftdiver
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