Posted on 11/22/2007 6:23:36 PM PST by BGHater
The monetary gadfly behind the Liberty Dollar, Bernard von NotHaus, declared over the weekend that he expects to be criminally charged over his currency and is vowing "a spectacular trial" that will "put this country's monetary system on trial."
Mr. von NotHaus was interviewed by The New York Sun via telephone on Saturday following disclosures that the Liberty Dollar, a gold- and silver-based currency marketed by anti-government activists as an alternative to the greenback, drew the federal government's scrutiny because the coins resembled official currency produced by the U.S. Mint.
After a two-year undercover investigation of the currency, federal agents last week raided the Idaho mint where the Liberty Dollar was produced and the Indiana offices that served as its marketing headquarters. Tens of thousands of gold, silver, and copper coins were seized, including a special edition bearing the image of a Republican presidential candidate, Rep. Ron Paul, a supporter of the gold standard. It is the standard edition of the Liberty Dollar, which features a profile of a crowned Lady Liberty as well as the lettering USA and "Trust In God," which federal authorities say is illegal.
These symbols and language are similar enough to coinage from the U.S. Mint that the Liberty Dollars "are easily confused with legitimate United States Currency," a purported affidavit apparently filed last week in support of the search warrant claims.
The apparent affidavit was posted on the Internet on Friday by the libertarian think tank, the Reason Foundation. A spokeswoman for the U.S. attorney's office in Charlotte, N.C., told the Washington Post that a court clerk had mistakenly made court documents in the case public.
(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...
Mr. Goodger described the supporters of the currency as "concerned people who believe our government is out of control."'
Lol. Scary people.
Did you see the interview by Glen Beck on Liberty Dollar with Bernard Von NotHause?
http://youtube.com/results?search_query=glen+beck+and+Bernard+von+NotHaus&search=Search
It ain’t spectacular till it beats OJ, Brittney, or Natalee for airtime. So far the only place I’ve seen any news about it is right here at FR.
The intent of the Liberty dollar was not to fraudulantly fool people into believing they were US Currency. I would be everyone using them realized they were an alternative currency. If the thrust of the case is people were defrauded into believing they were buying US currency, I would hope the case should fail. It could get interesting.
“It ain’t spectacular till it beats OJ, Brittney, or Natalee for airtime.”
Your comment is very funny and true.
I believe the government would rather not have the attention. Guess something will happen with Brittney, OJ, Jacko or someone else to take that attention away, IMO.
Of all of the Norfed folks faults, masquerading as Federal Reserve Notes is not one of them, completely different in appearance and writing contains no seals none of that sort of stuff.
The rounds are a bit of a different case, but nowhere do they claim to be US legal tender.
And I’ve seen the Norfed folks all over CNBC and CNN.
Larry Kudlow spent about 7 minutes just on Norfed’s Nauhaus.
I’m sure they don’t want the attention. I don’t really have a stance on these coins but I do think the media plays magician for the brain dead masses too much.
Mostly I would be happy with about 4 hours less local news made national every day and see it replaced with other candidates, real national news etc.
FR post.../1927563/posts.
"Already long ago, from when we sold our vote to no man, the People have abdicated our duties;
for the People who once upon a time handed out military command, high civil office, legions - everything,
now restrains itself and anxiously hopes for just two things: bread and circuses" (Juvenal, Satire 10.77-81)
I'm very much on these guys' side as it relates to what has become of our monetary system in the United States. But they have a huge problem in that the right to coin money, which means to stamp gold and silver into little recognizable disks of known weight and fineness, is reserved to the Federal government by the Constitution. (Just as operating post offices has been held to be.)
ML/NJ
NotHaus was on Kudlow’s TV show. Now that was funny, NotHaus now has the on air backing of Kudlow to bolster his current media witchhunt trial, which the NY Sun has no problem lighting the torches and sharpening the pitchforks apparently.
I agree with you, but the Norfed group there specifically goes out of it’s way to communicate that the physical species they sell is NOT coinage. Now, there is always conspriacy to counterfeit charges they can bring up, and would be easier to get a conviction.
Totally agree.
I think it depends on the value of the money. Each day, in magazines and newspapers, there are millions of coupons offered to the public. Each of them has a face value printed on it that is considerably less than the value if traded for goods. What are these if not money? Granted, they’re not printed to look anything like American currency but neither were those “Liberty Dollars.”
Apparently Procter and Gamble can print all the money they want as long as they don’t “dis” the Fed.
I have a set of the Ronald Reagan coins (medallions).
https://www.reaganfoundation.org/store/products.asp?subcat_id=24
“I’ll wait for the Ron Reagan Dollar, thank you.”
While you’re waiting, you can get some Ron Reagan silver eagles:
http://www.asseenontv.com/prod-pages/reagan_se.html
or private mint “silver clad” Ron Reagan dollars:
“watching endless reruns of Matlock would have you think.”
LOL
Made me think for a second, Matlock or Perry Mason. If tried in the south I would have matlock, Mason everywhere else.
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