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Panel won't probe Boulder land ruling
The Denver Post ^ | 11/21/2007 | Tom McGhee

Posted on 11/21/2007 8:13:56 PM PST by george76

A judiciary oversight committee has rejected a Boulder couple's request to investigate a neighboring couple who used an arcane legal loophole to take over their property.

The Colorado Supreme Court's Attorney Regulation Counsel rejected Don and Susie Kirlin's request to investigate ex-judge and former Boulder mayor Richard McLean and his lawyer wife Edith Stevens, who won a strip of their property on Hardscrabble Drive.

In a letter to the Kirlins, assistant regulation counsel Louise Culberson-Smith said that the McLean and Stevens' use of an "adverse possession claim" to win the land does not constitute a violation of the Rules of Professional Conduct.

McLean and Stevens won a third of a vacant lot that the Kirlins owned for more than 20 years, making it impossible for them to build a dream home they had planned for the site.

The legal doctrine of "adverse possession" lets someone who uses another's property for 18 years without an owner's objection ...

The Kirlins said that McLean and Stevens misused their knowledge of the law by trespassing on their property for years and then arguing that trespass gave them a right to the land.

"In my opinion that is not the way an attorney should use the law. The code of ethics says they will not use their knowledge of the law for personal gain over people that don't have that knowledge," Don Kirlin said Tuesday.

(Excerpt) Read more at denverpost.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: adversepossession; corruption; democratparty; donkirlin; edithstevens; judge; landgrab; lawsuit; mclean; propertyrights; propertytheft; richardmclean; ruling; scotus; stevens
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To: george76

Who says that the old fashioned, RAT style, “good ole’ boy network” down at the courthouse is a thing of the past?


81 posted on 11/27/2007 8:44:08 AM PST by fella (The proper application of the truth far more important than the knowledge of it's existance."Ike")
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To: george76
I think Bob would be an ideal candidate for us for Boulder. As I recall he darn near took the Boulder Congressional seat a few years ago.
82 posted on 11/27/2007 11:04:20 AM PST by colorado tanker (I'm unmoderated - just ask Bill O'Reilly)
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To: george76
I think Bob would be an ideal candidate for us for Boulder. As I recall he darn near took the Boulder Congressional seat a few years ago.
83 posted on 11/27/2007 11:04:20 AM PST by colorado tanker (I'm unmoderated - just ask Bill O'Reilly)
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To: MaxMax; editor-surveyor; XeniaSt

Assuming that McLean can state a successful claim for adverse possession, you just don’t do that to you neighbor, even an absentee neighbor.

One would think that a respected judge, who has witnessed the sad pagentry of litigation play out in his courtroom for years, would understand this, and would understand why people are upset.

It’s not about legal rights. It’s about doing what is right.


84 posted on 11/27/2007 11:43:35 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: fella

Remember the Ramsey mess in Boulder ?

old fashioned, RAT style, “good ole’ boy network”


85 posted on 11/27/2007 11:46:39 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

I don’t know enough about the situation to comment. I know Stevens has resigned but I don’t know what Levy has said/not said. I’ll have to listen to Caplis and Silverman tonight to get caught up :)


86 posted on 11/27/2007 12:01:31 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: george76

I don’t know if what happened is even legal—a true case of adverse possession? I know Caplis (although not a property attorney) was questioning the legality of it—definitely questioning the morality of it.


87 posted on 11/27/2007 12:03:46 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: billmor

Are you a RPLS?


88 posted on 11/27/2007 12:10:02 PM PST by enraged
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To: fuzzthatwuz

Check! Same in Oregon.

Open, hostile, notorious, exclusive, taxes


89 posted on 11/27/2007 12:16:42 PM PST by enraged
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To: beaversmom

I doubt this land grab attempt is legal.

Two year path ...not a twenty year path.

Neighbors and the HOA management do not apparently remember a 20 path, aerial photos do not apparently show a 20 path...and more too.

the morality of this attempt to a neighbor is awful.


90 posted on 11/27/2007 2:26:18 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: enraged
"Open, hostile, notorious, exclusive, taxes"

Isn't it funny how the lieyers among us don't see the necessity of those constraints? Like anybody should be able to glom onto any piece of land they wish, as long as they are willing to pay a lieyer.

91 posted on 11/27/2007 2:54:50 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
One, are the perps lying about what they did over the years to obtain the adverse posession? Nearly everyone thinks they’ve lied to the court.

That's known as perjury.

92 posted on 11/29/2007 5:26:56 PM PST by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: pray4liberty

Yes it is, and by a former judge no less.


93 posted on 11/29/2007 5:48:15 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: joanie-f
Have the Kirlins considered calling the U.S. Attorney and having them all criminally charged, as officers of the court, under Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241 and 242 (Conspiracy Against Rights, and Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law)??

Just pray the Federal Judge isn't a Democrat crony and a Clinton appointee.

94 posted on 11/29/2007 6:08:53 PM PST by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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Don and Susie Kirlin said Saturday they have been inundated with phone calls, letters and e-mails over the past few weeks from area residents expressing support for the couple...

http://dailycamera.com/news/2007/nov/18/picnic-protest-set-for-disputed-property/

Also on Saturday, state Rep. Claire Levy, D-Boulder, announced that she has accepted the resignation of Edith Stevens as her campaign treasurer.

“(Stevens) has resigned, and I accepted her resignation,” Levy said.

Levy said last week that she had received several requests from constituents to “disassociate” herself from Stevens, who worked on Levy’s 2006 campaign.

Levy said Stevens did not offer a reason for the resignation, which she said was done by phone.


95 posted on 11/29/2007 6:43:05 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Also on Saturday, state Rep. Claire Levy, D-Boulder, announced that she has accepted the resignation of Edith Stevens as her campaign treasurer.

Rep. Claire Levy better take a good look at those books and check for embezzlement. If she wants to save her political hide, she ought to throw unEthical Edie to the wolves.

96 posted on 11/29/2007 7:07:59 PM PST by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: pray4liberty

Claire Levy - still not getting it

When asked what her reaction was to Stevens’ resignation, Levy said, “It’s best that we all just move on and attend to the business we have.”

This may actually be the most damaging outcome for Claire because it lets her think this is behind her while she still has not spoken to the issue. And her ending request to move on once again comes across as arrogant and unwilling to speak to the issue at hand.

Again, we will have to see how the next few weeks play out.

Will Claire finally make a statement about her opinion of the land grab?

Will this story stay front and center for awhile? Will a credible opponent run against Claire in the election?

But as of now I think her seat remains very much in play in the upcoming election. And if the Republicans nominate a strong candidate (hint - Bob Greenlee), then it’s a real race.

http://www.davidthielen.info/politics/2007/11/claire-levy-—s.html


97 posted on 11/29/2007 7:11:37 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Rep. Claire Levy has a golden opportunity here, but if she's not that politically astute, she deserves to lose the election.

The point has to be made that her being in the House will only be to benefit her buddies like Edie Stevens. If I was her opponent I would make big hay of that, that Claire would only stand in the way of fixing these crappy laws and enabling corruption by her friends.

Edie Stevens' name deserves to be synonymous with "unethical" -- like Benedict Arnold's name means "traitor."

98 posted on 11/29/2007 7:18:27 PM PST by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
I don't know which is more reprehensible, the actions of this dastardly duo or the pathetic efforts of their friends in the system to justify and cover up their theft, and further deny the Kirlins justice.

These people need to remember there is a higher authority, and He holds their very life and health in His hands, which he can take away at any moment.

These people have no fear of God. They should.

99 posted on 11/30/2007 5:08:33 AM PST by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: SatinDoll
You can see animal trails on aerial photos, we used to use them scouting deer trails before deer season--it saved a lot of time on the ground.

Any well developed or well-used path will show up as well, and this is the basis for the adverse posession claim.

In short, evidence, pro or con.

It has one hell of a lot more than 'jack squat' to do with it if the claimed 18 years of use don't show up until a year or so ago, it means the litigants trying to claim adverse posession are lying.

That is not "adverse posession", it is theft.

Of course, with the condition of the courts today, I can see why pertinent, even crucial evidence might not have "Jack squat" to do with the decision handed down.

YMMV.

100 posted on 11/30/2007 5:22:40 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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