Posted on 11/21/2007 11:58:07 AM PST by Sopater
An internal police investigation is under way after a formal complaint was filed against a Utah state trooper who was videotaped Tasering a man who refused to sign a speeding ticket.
The officer's conduct has been called into question after a videotape of the incident was posted on YouTube.
The video, taken from a Utah Highway Patrol dashboard camera, shows Trooper John Gardner using a Taser on Jared Massey during a traffic stop on State Road 40 in Uintah County on Sept. 14.
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What did you order?
All this guy had to do was write the ticket and go on about his way. But to the cop this was all about the guy not obeying the letter of what he was instructed to do.
Secondly, if the lady wants to go stand in the bar ditch and watch what's happening to her husband.... I think she has the right to do that. She posed no threat to the cop.
Yep... cuffed, or no, you don’t turn your back on an unrestrained suspect.
Did you hear that big brave husband call to his wife for help? What a cowardly jerk, LOL.
If he had beat the crap out of the cop... would you have thought more of him?
Well, I have 2 brothers that are cops. I want to get their take on this.
Bullcrap...You're making this up to support your argument.
If you're going to make your argument based on something other than this video, than say so.
You know watching the video... the cop is going down the road. The guy is following.... the cop slows and pulls over in front of the 40 mph sign.... the guy goes by...... then the cop redlights him almost immediately. No radar. It didn’t look like the guy was going faster than 40 to me. I guess it’s difficult to tell, but I’d question why the stop was made in the first place. I’d question if the guy was actually speeding.
I’m also seeing a lot of the usual confusion about taser related deaths versus taser caused deaths. There are actually only a couple of incidences of taser caused deaths. The media keeps assuming that all excited delirium deaths are taser caused, all self-induced heart attack deaths are taser caused, all asthmatic attack deaths are taser caused, etc. By that standard, the number of ‘arrest caused’ deaths would be phenomenal. Whereupon they’d be arguing that no form of force should ever be used on those resisting because everything from a firm grip on up was a potential cause of death.
Maybe I’ve been around too long, but I recall this whole bit happening fifteen years ago when the choke hold was outlawed by many departments. Then it was Mace related deaths, then OC related deaths. What was left was the swarm technique and baton strokes. Rodney King was an example of the consequence of limiting force to those options. The swarm proved useless, and the baton was the only other option.
We had just come from the range and my Sig 226 was unloaded and in the trunk. Porky confiscated it and I never got it back.
If you act nice, cooperate and kiss a little ass most of the time you will get a warning. if not sign the ticket and get out of there.
But if I ever get a mad wake up by an assault team I'd probably end in a blaze of bullets. I truly hate jack booted thugs of any flavor.
you’re right... he says “how you doing, you’re going kinda fast.... let me see your license and registration”. I wonder how much faster he was going than the cop car that he was following?
I did view the video. When I did stops at night I always approached the car from the passenger side, one reason was in the video, the other most of the time they cannot see you, or a shadow, and surprise. The risk is you might trip or step in a hole, tough to see in the dark.
and he had good cause...the driver was reaching into his pocket. Maybe just putting his thumb into his pocket. Hard to tell.
Either way, the driver was in fault at this point.
Miranda warnings are required prior to in custody interrogation, not prior to arrest. The guy had no right to a Miranda warning.
well said
Here in Houston, a cop tazed a guy through the vehicle window while the guy was asking why he was stopped.
Man I hate what our country is becoming.
Cops used to be able to do this too (and many still do) but I'm concerned the tazer is replacing that skill. As someone posted It's 'easier" to taz them.
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