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1 posted on 11/21/2007 7:10:09 AM PST by PapaBear3625
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They just will not quit will they?

2nd amendment trumps all laws.


2 posted on 11/21/2007 7:14:56 AM PST by nuke rocketeer
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To: PapaBear3625

Not that it matters, but it would be interesting to compare the numbers of people saved by a citizen having ready access to a weapon in his vehicle to the numbers of people killed by people who only killed because they happen to have a weapon handy out in the car.


4 posted on 11/21/2007 7:18:57 AM PST by gridlock (Recycling is the new Religion.)
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“Kern decided in a 93-page written order issued Thursday...”

93 page opinion? By itself, that should send up red flags.

So workplace safety means no guns? Well, I’m certain murderous, disgruntled employees with a death wish will put compliance with OSHA rules at the top of their list (need I use a sarcasm tag?).


5 posted on 11/21/2007 7:24:10 AM PST by CitizenUSA
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I deny any involvement!


10 posted on 11/21/2007 8:07:38 AM PST by OSHA (Liberals will lick the boot on their necks if they think the other boot is on yours and mine.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Another POS leftist courtesy of the Clintons and a Senate full of Socialists and RINOs. Is the Oklahoma AG appealing this?

Kern, Terence C.
Born 1944 in Clinton, OK

Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U. S. District Court, Northern District of Oklahoma
Nominated by William J. Clinton on March 9, 1994, to a new seat created by 104 Stat. 5089; Confirmed by the Senate on June 8, 1994, and received commission on June 9, 1994. Served as chief judge, 1996-2003.


12 posted on 11/21/2007 8:16:17 AM PST by Postman
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ping


15 posted on 11/28/2007 3:54:27 PM PST by PapaBear3625
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To: PapaBear3625

That’s not OSHA. That’s hte MN dept of labor.


16 posted on 12/06/2007 10:06:43 AM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: PapaBear3625; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...




Libertarian ping! To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here.
19 posted on 12/06/2007 10:30:20 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: PapaBear3625
On a tangent, OSHA should be pushing for silencers being required, not virtually prohibited.
21 posted on 12/06/2007 10:39:23 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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They are doing it because OSHA, a federal regulatory agency, is telling them they MUST have this as policy in order to be in compliance with Federal law (or else)

Sorry but you are just plain wrong.

The Looking further, I find this OSHA page on workplace violence with "guidance" on what employers need to do to reduce the risk of "workplace violence", with a link to "A Comprehensive Guide for Employers and Employees"

That portion is guidance only and does not have the force of law as you state.

And what do we find in this comprehensive guide? We find in the Appendix a convenient template for a Appendix E - Sample Workplace Weapons Policy for all businesses to implement, which reads:

Both those links are to a Minnesota state program, not an OSHA program as you stated.

IMO, OSHA isn't concerned about gun control but about effective public policy within their charter to reduce or eliminate workplace injuries.

You won't find many more staunch 2A supporters than I, since I even advocate felons being able to legally own guns.

But what we advocate as personal liberties don't always translate to good public policies.

If you own a factory with 1000 employees, how do you handle 2A rights vs your responsibilities and liabilities as the employer? Do you make policy that your employees resist robbers or that they comply with them?

Do you allow concealed carry on the factory floor or open carry? Do you have any guidelines, ie limits?

See, it is one thing for you to want your freedoms but something else when you have to have policy for 1000 people who may want to sue you!

So in the interest of truth and honesty, your post isn't truthful or honest.

23 posted on 12/06/2007 4:53:16 PM PST by Eagle Eye (If you agree with Democrats you agree with America's enemies.)
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Citizens with no criminal record should be able, at will, to carry, concealed or open, any firearm they please, hand gun or long gun, anywhere they please without let or hindrance by government authorities.


26 posted on 03/16/2012 7:30:08 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Obama is Romney lite)
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Citizens with no criminal record should be able, at will, to carry, concealed or open, any firearm they please, hand gun or long gun, anywhere they please without let or hindrance by government authorities.


27 posted on 03/16/2012 7:31:32 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Obama is Romney lite)
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