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Border fence upsets environmentalists (THAT's A GOOD THING IN MY BOOK)
KVOA.com ^ | Ed Tribble

Posted on 11/19/2007 7:56:58 PM PST by SandRat

A group of people concerned for the environment toured the border near Sierra Vista to see the newly constructed border fence.

Among them was Congressman Raul Grijalva.

As they tour the border, one of their concerns is about wildlife which won't be able to get across the new fence.

"Anything larger than four inches wide will not be able to cross," says Matt Clark with Defenders of Wildlife.

Another concern is that illegal traffic will be forced into environmentally sensitive river beds.

"We're concerned about effects on hydrology. There's concern riverbeds may shift because of all these structures and increased sedimentation," Clark says.

"Right now we have a 'one fence fits all philosophy' coming from Washington DC. And unfortunately 'one fence fits all' doesn't fit in this terrain," Grijalva says.

Border Patrol says it has followed standard laws covering environmental assessments for all major projects like this one within the federal government.

"That environmental assessment found that there would be no significant environmental impact as a result of this construction project," says Border Patrol spokeswoman Dove Haber.

"In our attempts to make sure the watershed has the least impact possible, we've decided that we're going to work with different types of material," she says.

When it comes to national security and the environment it's all part of a balancing act.

"We've done as much as we can to try and deal with national security issues and mitigate any negative effects to the environment whenever possible," Haber says.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; borderfence; duncanhunter; environmentalists; envirowhackos; fence; greens; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; mexico; upsets
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1 posted on 11/19/2007 7:57:00 PM PST by SandRat
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To: HiJinx; Spiff; Borax Queen; idratherbepainting; AZHSer; Sabertooth; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; ...

Awwww,... da poor widdle enviroNutz are upset at the Border Fence being built.


2 posted on 11/19/2007 7:58:34 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
"Right now we have a 'one fence fits all philosophy' coming from Washington DC. And unfortunately 'one fence fits all' doesn't fit in this terrain," Grijalva (D-AZ) says.

Liar, liar, pants on fire. Either that, or woefully ignorant. Shoot, he may even be both!!

3 posted on 11/19/2007 8:00:29 PM PST by HiJinx (~ Support our Troops ~ www.americasupportsyou.mil ~)
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To: SandRat

Security outweighs wildlife.

Next


4 posted on 11/19/2007 8:03:12 PM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
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To: SandRat
It's a Twofer! Can we go for a hat trick and find that, in addition to upsetting illegals and animals, it also causes Global Warming?

-Joan

5 posted on 11/19/2007 8:04:34 PM PST by JoanVarga ("Por que no te callas?")
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To: SandRat

This is Scrappleface, right?


6 posted on 11/19/2007 8:05:47 PM PST by HoosierHawk
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To: SandRat
>”Right now we have a ‘one fence fits all philosophy’ coming from Washington DC. And unfortunately ‘one fence fits all’ doesn’t fit in this terrain,” Grijalva says.

LOL!! Last laugh of the day! Grijalva?

Now I wonder what type of fence would make her happy, then?

None?

7 posted on 11/19/2007 8:08:01 PM PST by bill1952 ("all that we do is done with an eye towards something else." - Aristotle)
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To: HoosierHawk

Nope! It’s for Real; from KVOA 4 NBC News Tucson Arizona


8 posted on 11/19/2007 8:08:20 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: bill1952

It’s a him, and he behaves like old B Grade black and white movie character Spanish royalty.


9 posted on 11/19/2007 8:10:52 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

The enviros shouldn’t be allowed to buy or own anything that contains anything from a mine, well, or forest.

Let them starve,freeze, and die in the buff!


10 posted on 11/19/2007 8:11:01 PM PST by dalereed
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To: SandRat

They are not at all concerned with the mountains of garbage illegals strew all over the landscape.


11 posted on 11/19/2007 8:12:09 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: dalereed

awww,... you read the end of Tom Clancy’s book “Rainbow Six.”


12 posted on 11/19/2007 8:13:10 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Graybeard58

That they could care less about.


13 posted on 11/19/2007 8:13:43 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
Border fence upsets environmentalists socialists

It has nothing to do with environmentalism. It has everything to do with socialists trying to destroy our democratic republic with a strong centralized socialist form of government. The environment is just one of many methods they use to advance their cause.
14 posted on 11/19/2007 8:14:04 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: SandRat

the reason the enviro-left is upset is that they were COUNTING on environmental excuse law to delay delay delay the fence. Since the fence is exempt from such legal fluff tactics, the left has been trumped by common sense.


15 posted on 11/19/2007 8:17:11 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: HiJinx
el supremo don Raoul Grijalva de Me.Ch.A Azatlan, has been known to lie when it suits his purpose, he definately isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. His biggest objection on the fence, is that it makes it more difficult for his constituants to jump the border.

Yes I mean he is Mexico's representative in the U.S. House of Representatives.

16 posted on 11/19/2007 8:29:22 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: SandRat

So the animals have to find another way around the fence. They’ll ADAPT.

Remember how the Envro-morons said that the oil pipeline was going to cause havoc with the wildlife in Alaska? Well, they were wrong there, too, weren’t they? The animals ADAPTED.

Liberal man seems to be the only animal which cannot adapt.


17 posted on 11/19/2007 8:31:42 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (http://auntiecoosa.blogspot.com -- read, learn, blog, or get out of my way.)
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To: SandRat
A group of people concerned for the environment toured the border near Sierra Vista to see the newly constructed border fence.

A lie right from the start. I'll bet anyone a cold beer that the great majority of these people are not "environmentalists" in any sense of the word. Rather, they are using their trumped-up concerns as a means of advancing their agenda.

A more commonplace example of false environmentalism is ongoing near my home in Union County, NC (Charlotte burbs). A badly needed freeway has been held up for nearly a decade because of a supposedly endangered species -- a freshwater mussel known as the "Carolina Heelsplitter" which lives in several creeks the freeway would traverse or displace. Now, does anyone really think the anti-freeway "environmentalists" are concerned with the wellbeing of a handful of freshwater mussels? Not likely. They're using these poor mollusks because they don't want a freeway nearby.

Faux environmentalism. It's a common NIMBY tool, used to stop economic development, and now to stop common-sense national security measures, and it's become an epidemic.

18 posted on 11/19/2007 8:37:23 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina (These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others.)
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To: HiJinx

“Liar, liar, pants on fire. Either that, or woefully ignorant. Shoot, he may even be both!!”

I vote both!


20 posted on 11/19/2007 8:41:53 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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