Posted on 11/19/2007 4:30:05 PM PST by jdm
Sounds like typical CNN BS to me.
Link to today's 26-page New Hampshire poll report (PDF).
Even though I think you may be overly optimistic about Duncans chances ... or lack there of ... I hope you’re right and I’m wrong
This comment is why you’re on my “Done With You” list: You first say Hunter is gaining in the polls, then, when someone asks you why Hunter isn’t even listed, you change the subject and accuse the questioner of only worshiping “name recognition.” (Which matters, by the way, I hate to tell you.) G’bye. No loss.
***Of course name recognition matters, but name recognition can be acquired, even within one election cycle. Dan Quayle is the example. It’s a wide open race, and the process itself generates name recognition, but character is more important than name recognition. Hunter is gaining in the polls, his contracts are starting to move at Intrade and doubled in price yesterday. Thompson is losing ground in the polls, he’s lost 30 points at Intrade, and in other ways he has squandered the lead. Hunter is a better campaigner than Fred. How do you think Hunter ends up on these uprising, latest polls? Because the “field” ends up with 50%, just like this one. But since you are pro-Fred and I am pro-Hunter, we can’t seem to arrive at an objective, unbiased, agreed-upon data source to start with.
So why is Ron Paul in the poll? This does smell funny. Why the spike in people who would not support Thompson even if their candidate dropped out? It smells like a push poll.
Whats New Hampster have? 3 electoral votes?
And yet he's on the decline in South Carolina, too.
Maybe he can still turn on the fire and turn it around.
Sounds like 1980 all over again....
These polls only make the point that New Hampshire is the homeland of the Northeastern Shrillhorn RINO. Notice that the support numbers are directly proportional to the candidates’ liberal tendencies and inversely proportional to their conservative values.
Even though I think you may be overly optimistic about Duncans chances ... or lack there of ... I hope you’re right and I’m wrong.
***OK, then let me ask you a question.
If Hunter passes Thompson at Intrade, should Thompson supporters switch their support at that time? We needed to ask similar questions when Thompson was in the lead at Intrade and suggest that if he were to drop by more than 25 points, would they switch their support? No one did ask the question, but if they had, we would have gotten to hold those Freepers to their word. So now I’m asking what in your mind is probably something out of the realm of possibility. If Hunter passes Thompson at Intrade, should Thompson supporters switch their support ? If you’re a Thompson supporter, will you give your support at that time? I’m just trying to bump Hunter up to 4 or 5% at Intrade, since he is at 4% in the polls. Thompson is at ~6%. So in your mind this is probably not possible but in the Hunter followers’ minds it is quite possible. It’s a yes or no question. Please, no hemming and hawing, no nonsense about how it’s such an impossible event that it’s not worth bothering over. Losing 29 points at Intrade was considered an impossible event when he had the lead, so please don’t pretend that one is possible and the other isn’t.
Madden also argued that the recent indictment of Giuliani associate Bernard Kerik has cast doubt on the former New York City mayor’s ability to beat Hillary Clinton. “The seemingly ever-present, negative narrative that has emerged to surround the mayor’s campaign may lead Republican voters to a troubling conclusion that the indictment of a top aide of Mayor Giuliani’s will hurt our party’s ability to draw a contrast with Senator Clinton on higher ethics,” Madden writes.
Thanks for your admission. I know you are always one to look at the positive side of Thompson's candidacy /sarc
Did Rasmussen post a different poll? Because according to his daily numbers Fred has not been at 21% for a full month (Oct 19th was the last time).
In the primaries anything is possible. In the general election we vote Republican.
I think more telling is that Hillary has high negatives among Democrat voters.
Except about Ron Paul, they seem to have figured that out at least.
BTW. At this point in time 4 years ago Kerry was polling at 9% Yesterday Rassmusen had Fred at a 21% nationwide a statistical tie for 1st with Rooty
***I was using the Kerry results earlier and was told that they were invalid because that was democrats and this is republicans. It must be the primary season.
Last poll I saw published was Rooty 25% Fred 21% a statistical tie
Never mind, I just read coderpc’s post #49. I forgot about the debate. New Hampshire cherishes its status as the first primary. That explains a lot.
Well, blow me down, one-note Kevmo is on the scene.
In my case, no, I will not change. I believe that the only true form of conservatism is federalism. I believe that a government that uses it's power to enforce YOUR will on others is little better than one that uses its power to enforce the liberals' will on others. Any gains by electing a big-government conservative are only temporary. Electing someone who changes the rules can result in permanent change.
I don't mean this to trash your guy, but I think federalism is what can save us from ourselves.
JCEccles: I have to admit. Those are ugly numbers for Fred. Cut them by a third and they’re still ugly.
TN4Liberty: Thanks for your admission. I know you are always one to look at the positive side of Thompson’s candidacy /sarc
***JC, welcome to the harsh reality of being honest about your own candidate. The first to attack you are the guys who were standing next to you just a minute ago. This is going to be an ugly republican primary and convention.
I liked him a lot, too, but he became so obsessive I had to stay away from his posts.
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