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Death of Jefferson Davis Remembered - The Christmas of 1889 Was a Sad Time in the South
Accessnga.com ^ | 11/19/07 | Calvin Johnson, Jr.

Posted on 11/19/2007 10:09:26 AM PST by BnBlFlag

Death of Jefferson Davis Remembered - The Christmas of 1889 was a sad time in the South. By Calvin Johnson Jr. Staff Email Contact Editor Print

Jefferson Davis - AuthenticHistory.com December 6th, is the 118th anniversary of the death of a great American Hero---Jefferson Davis.

The "Politically Correct" would have you forget the past...But do not forget the history of the men and women who made the USA great.

Caution, this is a family friendly story to be shared.

The Sons of Confederate Veterans have declared 2008, the "Year of Jefferson Davis." Remembrance events will include the re-opening of "Beauvoir" on Jefferson Davis' 200th birthday---June 3, 2008. This was Davis' last home that was damaged by Hurricane Katrina. The Jefferson Davis Presidential Library and Museum will be rebuilt and re-open about two years after the house. Beauvoir is located on the beautiful Mississippi Gulf Coast. See more at: www.beauvoir.org

The New York Times reported the death of Jefferson Davis;

New Orleans, December 8, 1889---Quote "A careful tally of the visitors shows that about 40,000 persons, mostly women and children, viewed the remains today. This crowd included, in solemn and respectful attendance, all conditions of Whites, Blacks, ex-Confederates, ex-Federals, and even Indians and Chinamen." ---Unquote

Davis' Death was also the page 1 story in Dixie;

Excerpt: http://www.accessnorthga.com/detail.php?n=204067&c=11

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: confederacy; dixie; jeffersondavis; southernheritage
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Was a sad day in Southern and American History. Davis was a good and decent man with a correct view of the Constitution. Though, lie all of us, he was a flawed man, he did (like MacArthur) "his best to do his duty as God gave him the Light to see that duty".
1 posted on 11/19/2007 10:09:29 AM PST by BnBlFlag
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To: BnBlFlag

Should read “like all of us”


2 posted on 11/19/2007 10:10:48 AM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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I have to admit that I've never harbored any hostility toward Jefferson Davis, even though I suppose I could be considered a Yankee. Like so many Southerners of the period, he followed his heart and stayed true to his cause, acting with honor and nobility even as he opposed men who acted with similar virtue.

I have actually visited Fort Monroe where he was held after the armistice. The story told there is that he was a decent, restrained man, and the guards felt somewhat sheepish about confining him.

3 posted on 11/19/2007 10:14:25 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: BnBlFlag
A Sad Day indeed


4 posted on 11/19/2007 10:16:06 AM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: BnBlFlag

Maybe, maybe not. What history does show us is he wasn’t very good at the job, as it was detailed in the CSA constitution. He micromanaged way too much, gave in to political appointments for combat units with disasterous results (Polk, Bragg come to mind) and in the end was moving units that didn’t actually exist, as if they did, eerily reminiscent of Hitler in the last days of The Reich.

(disclaimer for you ‘Lost Cause’ types, I’m not comparing Jefferson Davis to Adolph Hitler, so don’t bother flaming me on that score).

Somebody once noted that ‘The Confederacy needed either a great stateman, or a great military leader. IN Jefferson Davis, they got neither.’

I think that about sums it up.


5 posted on 11/19/2007 10:16:26 AM PST by Badeye (That Karma thing keeps coming around, eh Sally? (chuckle))
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Davis was a good and decent man with a correct view of the Constitution.

Good and decent yes, but his view of the Constitution was fatally flawed - as his heroic attempts to govern the South using his newfangled constitution proved to be doomed to failure.

"Died of a theory" was his own epitaph for the Confederacy.

6 posted on 11/19/2007 10:16:53 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: BnBlFlag

Unfortunately, the history books tell us more of Pres. Lincoln, Gen. Grant and Gen. Lee and very little of Pres. Jefferson Davis.


7 posted on 11/19/2007 10:17:36 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: IronJack

‘I have actually visited Fort Monroe where he was held after the armistice. The story told there is that he was a decent, restrained man, and the guards felt somewhat sheepish about confining him.’

How the Union treated him while he was there for two years is one of the uglier post Civil War incidents you’ll never read about in any highschool history book.


8 posted on 11/19/2007 10:17:43 AM PST by Badeye (That Karma thing keeps coming around, eh Sally? (chuckle))
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I thought in the PPS special Civil War said while imprisoned at Fort monroe he was basically an outcast and died later after being released without many friends...

Perhaps I remember wrong..what is the proper histroy??? ...or has he become a hero after death???


9 posted on 11/19/2007 10:18:00 AM PST by conservativehusker (GO BIG RED!!!!)
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To: stainlessbanner

Dixie Ping!


10 posted on 11/19/2007 10:18:23 AM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Badeye

Wow, I got in before someone called him a “traitor”!


11 posted on 11/19/2007 10:18:24 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (The WOT will end when pork products are weaponized)
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‘I thought in the PPS special Civil War said while imprisoned at Fort monroe he was basically an outcast and died later after being released without many friends...

Perhaps I remember wrong..what is the proper histroy??? ...or has he become a hero after death???’

He was always viewed as a ‘hero’ by the South after the war, and had thousands of friends, and hundreds of thousands that would have been glad to have made his acquaitance.


12 posted on 11/19/2007 10:20:57 AM PST by Badeye (That Karma thing keeps coming around, eh Sally? (chuckle))
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

They jump when they’re told to,,only response is “How High”,,


13 posted on 11/19/2007 10:21:12 AM PST by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken, there will be no Tomorrow!)
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To: BnBlFlag

I visited his home in Pass Christian (I think), Mississippi 20 years ago. It overlooked the Gulf of Mexico. I believe it was destroyed by Katrina.


14 posted on 11/19/2007 10:22:00 AM PST by American Quilter (The urge to save humanity is nearly always a cover for the urge to rule. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Hmmmm. Traitor is a strong word, and I don’t think it applies to Jefferson Davis.

He, and many many others believed the South had a right to ‘succeed’ from the Union, based on their interpretation of the Constitution.


15 posted on 11/19/2007 10:22:21 AM PST by Badeye (That Karma thing keeps coming around, eh Sally? (chuckle))
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To: BnBlFlag

He was a traitor to the union.


16 posted on 11/19/2007 10:23:17 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: conservativehusker
he was basically an outcast and died later after being released without many friends

The reality is that he was a pretty retiring, chastened individual after the war and there was little mileage to be made politically out of publicly befriending him or associating with him.

But he had plenty of friends and admirers, and it was much easier to celebrate him after he died than to champion him while he was alive.

The national climate was much different in 1889 than it was in 1866.

I will also point out that many former Confederates who despised him while he was alive became his biggest boosters when he died.

17 posted on 11/19/2007 10:25:16 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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I pass this historical marker every once in a while, Bus. 85 N.E. of Lexington, NC.


18 posted on 11/19/2007 10:28:09 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (The WOT will end when pork products are weaponized)
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To: SmoothTalker

Where does it say in the Constitution as it existed in 1861 that individual states don’t have a right to succeed from the Union?


20 posted on 11/19/2007 10:32:34 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (The WOT will end when pork products are weaponized)
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