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Boeing knows very well the value of proprietary data, they've sure stolen enough of it in their time.

I would've thought that hacking into somebody's personal e-mail account would be illegal.

1 posted on 11/18/2007 8:59:11 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

There is no such thing as a “private email” from a company email account.

As an employee, you do not own your work computer. You do not own the LAN. You did not buy the overpriced Windows operating system. You in fact did not buy anything - you are being PAID to be there.

You do not have a right to privacy in your cubicle. In fact, you do not have many rights at all, at work.

Thing is ... if you don’t like conditions there. You can simply go work somewhere else.

That’s the beauty.


2 posted on 11/18/2007 9:03:29 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (I like Duncan Hunter)
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I assumed they got his password because he accessed his personal email from a computer at work.

I always assume no privacy at work. I assume hidden cameras and keystroke loggers, etc. The building and computers belong to the company, not me. If I choose to access my personal email at work, I know that they now have my password. I just don’t care much.


3 posted on 11/18/2007 9:03:34 AM PST by Wage Slave (Good fences make good neighbors. -- Robert Frost)
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Boeing knows very well the value of proprietary data, they've sure stolen enough of it in their time

Heh. Good point, as everyone at Lockheed knows. This from the company that brought us Mike Sears and Darleen Druyan, not to mention the un-indicted co-conspirator Harry Stonecipher.

Always heard that mob guys were the angriest when they got ripped off. Same thing here...

4 posted on 11/18/2007 9:04:04 AM PST by Regulator
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If if it your company email account of if you use the comapny PC to send your yahoo of gmail they have a right to know what is typed.


11 posted on 11/18/2007 9:22:50 AM PST by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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“Boeing bosses spy on workers”

The Boeing Bosses should be spied on themselves.
The Boeing management give away plenty of info as part of their
business plan (manufacturing of many assemblies in foreign countries).


13 posted on 11/18/2007 9:23:06 AM PST by VOA
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

This article’s written as if the PI doesn’t know that Boeing is a United States Military contractor that develops some of the most powerful and secret weapons in the world.


15 posted on 11/18/2007 9:26:10 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car......with guns.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Imho the fair and reasonable approach is full (and I mean completely full) company disclosure of its privacy practices.

If they are going to engage PIs to follow you around if they suspect you are leaking secrets to a competitor or are a whistleblower they should be required to disclose that is their practice.

If they don't disclose and _then_ fire you imho that would be grounds for a wrongful termination suit.

In the case of government contractors this would make their life unpleasant since they are not allowed to persecute whistleblowers but do have a right to protect company secrets. They should disclose their policies in such difficult circumstances, and stick to those policies.


26 posted on 11/18/2007 9:53:19 AM PST by cgbg (The fight has just begun against the bully (nanny) state.)
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I would've thought that hacking into somebody's personal e-mail account would be illegal.

My guess is that the guy was accessing it at work. Reading what he sent and read at work would clearly be ok. If they actually accessed the account, it gets stickier.

44 posted on 11/18/2007 11:30:49 AM PST by PAR35
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Big Boss spying on your browsing habits??? Reading your email over his network??? Watching you while you eTrade???

THE SOLUTION

Tell him to F$^% off with IronKey

https://www.ironkey.com/


46 posted on 11/18/2007 11:39:54 AM PST by HKMk23 (Nine out of ten orcs attacking Rohan were Saruman's Uruk-hai, not Sauron's! So, why invade Mordor?)
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ping


47 posted on 11/18/2007 11:42:08 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; The majority are satisfied with a just master. -- Sallust)
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Tribal Knowledge cant be tapped unless you drink too much and have a runny mouth ! or are just stupid ...


71 posted on 11/18/2007 4:52:07 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Global Warming : Tape a liberals mouth shut and thats the end of Global Warming {both ways})
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The keystroke recording software that Raytheon sold to corporations was called Silent Runner and was available at least 7 years ago. When I worked in the aerospace industry I witnessed and reported attempted industrial espionage by Japan, Israel, France, India, China, Russia, and various European companies. Companies like Boeing have techological gold in every filing cabinet.


73 posted on 11/18/2007 5:10:28 PM PST by darth
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I would’ve thought that hacking into somebody’s personal e-mail account would be illegal.


Company email addresses are not private and shouldn’t be.


75 posted on 11/18/2007 5:17:46 PM PST by Joan Kerrey (Believe nothing of what you hear or read and half of what you see.)
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I have hidden cameras for companies in cash handling areas. They would only used them after someone was suspected of doing something wrong first. I had to work in the middle of the night so no one would see me, even some management. Visible camera were almost everywhere except the break room, restrooms and the hallway connecting them. Now that cameras are cheaper they have one at every counting station. Where I worked they were always careful about how they watched. They knew big brother was wacthing them.


93 posted on 11/18/2007 8:01:40 PM PST by ThomasThomas (An investigative journalist is one who uses spellcheck.)
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When I hired on with Boeing in 1974 as an electronics technician, the 1st thing I heard from the old Seattle based crew, was how over-monitored the employees were.
To include permission and timing for bathroom breaks.


97 posted on 11/19/2007 5:32:46 AM PST by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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Hey, if you want to use a work computer for personal business, to play games for hours at a stretch, and to surf for porn, the solution is simple. Get a job with the government.


98 posted on 11/19/2007 5:39:05 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Scrape the bottom, vote for Rodham!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I would've thought that hacking into somebody's personal e-mail account would be illegal.

If you use a company computer, don't expect ANY privacy.

Any keystrokes can be captured, audits can find everything you've done on the computer.

It's not your personal computer and if the Information Security policy is halfway decently written you will find a clause called "No expectation of privacy"

101 posted on 11/19/2007 8:42:21 AM PST by Centurion2000 (False modesty is as great a sin as false pride.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I would've thought that hacking into somebody's personal e-mail account would be illegal.

If the employee hasn't used a employer owned PC to access it, I agree. If the person uses the employers equipment, I think they're on their own.

108 posted on 11/28/2007 3:15:29 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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