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Boeing bosses spy on workers
Seattle-PI.com ^ | Friday, November 16, 2007 | ANDREA JAMES

Posted on 11/18/2007 8:59:10 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Within its bowels, The Boeing Co. holds volumes of proprietary information deemed so valuable that the company has entire teams dedicated to making sure that private information stays private.

One such team, dubbed "enterprise" investigators, has permission to read the private e-mails of employees, follow them and collect video footage or photos of them. Investigators can also secretly watch employee computer screens in real time and reproduce every keystroke a worker makes, the Seattle P-I has learned.

For years, Boeing workers have held suspicions about being surveilled, according to a long history of P-I contact with sources, but at least three people familiar with investigation tactics have recently confirmed them.

One company source said some employees have raised internal inquiries about whether their rights were violated. Sometimes, instead of going to court over a grievance on an investigation, Boeing and the employee reach a financial settlement. The settlement almost always requires people involved to sign non-disclosure agreements, the source said.

Boeing desires to keep investigation details under wraps.

"We will not discuss specifics of internal investigations with the media," it said in a written response to P-I questions. "Issues that necessitate investigation in order to protect the company's interests and those of its employees and other stakeholders are handled consistent with all applicable laws."

But the tactics used by Washington's largest employer raise questions about where an employee's rights begin and the employer's end, and how much leeway any corporation has in investigating an employee if it suspects wrongdoing.

A recent case at another large company highlighted that investigations can go too far. In 2006, a scandal erupted at Hewlett-Packard after the company investigated leaks from its board of directors.

The company was ordered to pay $14.5 million and to bring its internal investigations into compliance with laws in California, the company's home state.

The investigation included reviews of internal e-mails and instant messages, the physical surveillance of a board member and at least one journalist, and the illegal use of deception to obtain telephone records of employees and journalists.

For its part, Boeing says that it has multiple internal organizations that provide checks and balances "to ensure these investigations are conducted properly and in accordance with established company and legal guidelines. We do not comment on individual cases or specific investigation activities."

An employee is tailed

Recently, a Boeing investigator told a Puget Sound-area employee that he was followed off company property to a lunch spot, that investigators had footage of him "coming and going" and that investigators had accessed his personal Gmail account.

The primary reason for the 2007 investigation, the employee said, was Boeing's suspicion that he had spoken with a member of the media. The employee learned the details of the investigation during a three-hour meeting, in which investigators laid out some of their findings. He has since been fired.

That particular investigation was connected with a July article in the P-I that brought to light Boeing's struggles complying with a 2002 corporate reform law and cited unnamed sources and internal company documents.

"I wasn't surprised, but more just disappointed in them, that instead of looking at the problems, instead of investigating that, they investigated the people that were complaining and got rid of them," said the employee, who had been an auditor in the company's Office of Internal Governance and asked that he not be named.

"It's not quite indentured servitude, because you can quit, but when you look at the mortgages and car payments, especially in Seattle, you're not exactly free," said the surveilled former employee.

Experts say that tailing employees -- though surprising -- is usually legal, and that corporations have many options at their disposal to monitor employees. An investigator can do most things short of breaking into someone's home.

For example, under Washington's stalking law, licensed private investigators "acting within the capacity of his or her license" are allowed to repeatedly follow a person. Boeing's internal investigators are exempt under state law from having to obtain a private investigator license, but contracted investigators must hold licenses.

"It's worse than you can possibly imagine," said Ed Mierzwinski, consumer program director at the federation of Public Interest Research Groups.

"Employees should understand that the law generally gives employers broad authority to conduct surveillance, whether through e-mail, video cameras or other forms of tracking, including off the job in many cases."

The law grants companies the right to protect themselves from employees who break the law, such as by embezzling money or using the company warehouse to run a drug-smuggling ring.

The problem, Mierzwinski said, is when companies use the surveillance tactics available to them to root out whistle-blowers.

"We need greater whistle-blower protections," he said. But, "if you're using the company's resources and you think it's protected because you're using Hotmail, think again."

Privacy laws ask whether a reasonable person would be outraged by a particular act; reasonableness is an oft-cited concept in law, explained Bill Covington, a University of Washington professor on technology law and public policy. Washington is a "will-to-work" state, meaning employees can be fired without reason, he added.

"We cannot write laws that cover every circumstance," he said. "A jury can apply a community standard of what they deem to be fair and right. There are just too many other situations."

Unfortunately, the public itself does not know what it wants, he said.

"I don't think we have made up our mind which way we want to go with these particular laws," Covington said. "You are having a classic clash between business ... and privacy groups."

You are being watched

So when does privacy begin? When an employee steps across the threshold into his or her own home, experts say.

"The only thing your boss can't do is listen to personal telephone calls; that's covered by wiretapping laws," said Lewis Maltby, president of the National Workrights Institute in Princeton, N.J.

Companies following workers typically do so to check on the legitimacy of workers' compensation claims. A company needs to know if a worker who claims injury is actually mowing his lawn, Maltby said. It is "completely inappropriate" to trail employees to see if they are talking to reporters, he added -- but it is legal.

As one expert at the American Civil Liberties Union pointed out, just as the average Joe could trail his neighbor if he wanted to, companies are allowed to trail employees.

"I can't harass the person, but there's nothing that prevents me from just following him," said Doug Klunder, privacy project director at the ACLU of Washington.

Klunder said that reading private e-mails is "highly questionable." Companies should be able to know that employees are checking e-mail, but should not be able to view the contents of the e-mails.

"We certainly don't believe that an employer should be able to read private e-mail content just because it's accessed on a work computer," he said.

However, "it's a tricky area because there aren't a lot of legal protections in Washington and in most states where we have employment-at-will. There are some privacy rights of employees, but they are limited relative to the employer."

When Boeing employees sign on to the company network, a screen pops up to tell them that "to the extent permitted by law, system use and information may be monitored, recorded or disclosed and that using the system constitutes user consent to do so," according to Boeing.

Rights for whistle-blowers

If a corporate investigation discovers employee wrongdoing that merits discipline or dismissal, workers have little recourse, experts say. Whistle-blowers, on the other hand, are afforded more protection, but only if an investigation is deemed retaliatory.

"There are no employee rights. Employees have little negotiating power," said Bill Mateja, former point man for President Bush's Corporate Fraud Task Force, formed in 2002. "Only if they're in the position of whistle-blower do they have a little more oomph."

Whistle-blower cases can be dismissed for many reasons -- the employee might not have understood the law, or the employer's retaliation is not severe enough to merit fault, "or it can be that the investigation cannot prove that the adverse action was taken for the reason that was complained about," said David Mahlum, assistant regional administrator for Region 10 of the Occupational Safety and Health Administration. That agency investigates whistle-blower complaints.

Robert Ellis Smith, a lawyer and the publisher of Privacy Journal, a monthly newsletter, called whistle-blower protections the "wild card" in employee protections.

"Protections against electronic surveillance are virtually non-existent in the workplace," Smith said. "The one wild card for this is federal protections for whistle-blowers. Aside from that, the privacy laws are quite weak."

P-I reporter Andrea James can be reached at 206-448-8124 or andreajames@seattlepi.com.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: boeing; industrialespionage; nofreeping4you; privacy; workplace
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To: liberty_lvr

Sure thing, genius. I spent 6 years in the Navy’s nuclear power program and work in the aerospace industry now. Do you think I’d be in that line of work if I had a problem working in a place where everything is watched? That’s to be expected if you’re working with proprietary/critical technologies or classified.

Where all this rubs me wrong is when they access your personal e-mail account, follow you around town, and watch your house. If I do that, it’s stalking and very possibly harassment. Since I don’t have a team of expensive lawyers on retainer 24/7 who are good buddies with other expensive lawyers, prosecutors, and judges, apparently I don’t get to take the kind of liberties that Boeing does. I looked into Washington state stalking laws and I don’t see where it says that a private company doesn’t have to follow the same laws that private individuals do.

I care very little what Boeing does in their own house. It’s when they take it on the road that I start to question things. If they’re reading personal e-mails and following somebody all over town, that individual better be prosecutable or civilly sue-able when the investigation is all said and done. Doing all that and then firing them for “poor performance” or “violating company policy” is definitely a foul.


61 posted on 11/18/2007 2:37:10 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Oh, the huge manatee!!!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
"I won’t even post to FR, from my work computer. I figure it’s pretty non-controversial, to read FRom work..."

Hah. At some companies you'd be taking your career in your hands even bringing up FR's homepage. Besides the argument that company equipment and resources shouldn't be used for personal purposes, it's an invitation for harrassment and might possibly been seen as indicative of a "hostile work environment" by your more tender-hearted liberal co-workers. Get an iPhone and browse FR from it. On your breaks, of course.
62 posted on 11/18/2007 2:39:40 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Fred Thompson/Clarence Thomas 2008!])
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To: liberty_lvr

If this article is off-base, Boeing is free to issue a press-release. And actually, this (in your words) “left-wing” “socialist” “hatchet-job” article is giving Boeing a pass in many respects.


63 posted on 11/18/2007 2:41:42 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Oh, the huge manatee!!!)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
This article’s written as if the PI doesn’t know that Boeing is a United States Military contractor that develops some of the most powerful and secret weapons in the world.

Pure liberal ignorance at the PI. And to think many want to hand over that type of national security and sensitivity over to liberals again.

64 posted on 11/18/2007 2:44:19 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Here's what happened at the major aerospace contractor where I worked:

An employee who was a foster parent was sending suggestive-mails from his computer at work back and forth to his foster children, one of whom was a 13-year old girl.

This girl subsequently accused him of molesting her. He ended up being convicted and got sentenced to eight years in prison.

I don't know about you, but I see a huge potential liability here for the company.

65 posted on 11/18/2007 3:08:16 PM PST by Inspectorette
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To: Inspectorette

I see no liability at all.


66 posted on 11/18/2007 3:37:46 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

What....ever.


67 posted on 11/18/2007 3:51:07 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car......with guns.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Oh....wait a minute....ignore that....I misread who your were talking to.


68 posted on 11/18/2007 3:52:18 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car......with guns.)
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To: Inspectorette

I’m not a lawyer, but I don’t see any liability unless a supervisor found out he was doing it and just blew it off. It actually bolsters a company’s reasoning FOR e-mail monitoring because they can catch people doing this and serve society by turning them in for prosecution.


69 posted on 11/18/2007 3:52:55 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Oh, the huge manatee!!!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
It actually bolsters a company’s reasoning FOR e-mail monitoring because they can catch people doing this and serve society by turning them in for prosecution.

That's the point. Could the company have been found negligent because they were not monitoring their e-mail system. (His supervisor didn't know anything about it until the "fit hit the shan".

70 posted on 11/18/2007 4:48:33 PM PST by Inspectorette
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Tribal Knowledge cant be tapped unless you drink too much and have a runny mouth ! or are just stupid ...


71 posted on 11/18/2007 4:52:07 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Global Warming : Tape a liberals mouth shut and thats the end of Global Warming {both ways})
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To: Inspectorette
I think the liability WOULD be there if they actively monitored but missed the illegal content. This very issue was discussed at my company. Lawyers, consultants, security professionals ALL agreed that monitoring MADE the company potentially responsible for employee behavior. It was deemed much safer not to monitor.

In liability law, if you accept responsibility for one facet it opens you up for litigation if you fail. If you don't monitor and don't accept any responsibility its much safer.

Besides, do we really want some moron who gets paid 10 bucks an hour to attempt to interpret our emails? Geeezzz, people don't send their emails through a lawyer to make sure they are writing clearly. I can imagine the litigation when corps FALSLY accuse an employee of sending illegal content and essentially defame an innocent person. I know I'd sue them.
72 posted on 11/18/2007 4:56:59 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

The keystroke recording software that Raytheon sold to corporations was called Silent Runner and was available at least 7 years ago. When I worked in the aerospace industry I witnessed and reported attempted industrial espionage by Japan, Israel, France, India, China, Russia, and various European companies. Companies like Boeing have techological gold in every filing cabinet.


73 posted on 11/18/2007 5:10:28 PM PST by darth
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To: liberty_lvr
Companies like this don't need people who sit around all day worried about their "privacy" or their "rights

Good, I assume they will be just fine without our tax dollars.

74 posted on 11/18/2007 5:12:10 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

I would’ve thought that hacking into somebody’s personal e-mail account would be illegal.


Company email addresses are not private and shouldn’t be.


75 posted on 11/18/2007 5:17:46 PM PST by Joan Kerrey (Believe nothing of what you hear or read and half of what you see.)
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To: Joan Kerrey

There were referring to a private gmail account.


76 posted on 11/18/2007 5:28:36 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Where I have a problem is monitoring personal computer use, personal e-mail use, and following people around off company property.


I guess it depends what you position is and the level of security involved in your job. I would expect that employees with top secret work and high security clearances be monitored if they are using company computers to access personal email accounts. The following around off property is not illegal if there is reason to believe that you are a security risk and it depends on who is following you and if there is authorization. Not much data to work with on your allegations.


77 posted on 11/18/2007 5:30:42 PM PST by Joan Kerrey (Believe nothing of what you hear or read and half of what you see.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I won’t even post to FR, from my work computer.

You are wise. It is best never to let them have any access to your passwords. I know people that shop e-bay and do their banking and all sorts of things from their work computer.

I figure, why lead anyone into temptation?

78 posted on 11/18/2007 5:38:26 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (A good marriage is like a casserole, only those responsible for it really know what goes into it.)
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To: Regulator

Verizon, the company that recently argued in front of SCOTUS that conducting warrant less surveillance on customers on the behalf of the US government


Thank God we have Verizons willing to participate and cooperate with our government in it’s war on terror. If an overseas, non citizen and terrorist’s phone is being monitored I certainly don’t care if the other party is an American citizen or not. I want that call monitored. Also I haven’t heard of a single harm to any American citizen as a result of this activity by Verizon and others. I have heard of many calls that have resulted in critical information that has stopped terror acts before they did damage. What’s it going to take to wake people up, another 9/11, only bigger?? Show me wholesale rights violations and I might change my mind but I haven’t seen any so far.


79 posted on 11/18/2007 5:38:50 PM PST by Joan Kerrey (Believe nothing of what you hear or read and half of what you see.)
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To: Joan Kerrey
Well hell, let’s just throw away the whole darn Constitution if it makes you feel safer....
80 posted on 11/18/2007 5:40:54 PM PST by StolarStorm
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