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Pilot, Crew, TSA: Four Passengers Targeted Bathroom, Tampered with Mirror
The Aviation Nation ^ | 13 Nov 2007 | Annie Jacobsen

Posted on 11/18/2007 8:16:14 AM PST by 3AngelaD

This TSA Suspicious Incident #177, "...has many of the elements of pre-operational terrorist planning" according to TSA Office of Intelligence. It was leaked to me earlier today in my ongoing efforts to compile terrorist dry runs and probes on airplanes. A Federal Flight Deck Officer — i.e. armed pilot, flying in non-mission status on October 24, 2007, on a flight from Washington D.C. to Milwaukee, identified himself to flight crew in advance of take-off. When flight crew witnessed suspicious behavior by four passengers, they reported the information to the FFDO. The following unfolded...One of the subjects entered and exited the rear aircraft lavatory three times and failed to comply with crewmembers' verbal instructions. The FFDO seated himself near this subject to observe his behavior. Shortly afterward, two more of the subjects moved into the aisles and entered both lavatories. After one of the subjects vacated the rear left lavatory, the FFDO searched it, noting that the mirror above the sink was not properly latched.

He exited the lavatory and a fourth subject was waiting second in line with a passenger in front of him. The FFDO offered the fourth subject access to the right lavatory, but the subject declined, claiming the right lavatory was dirty.The FFDO noted the right lavatory was clean, and the subject reluctantly entered the right lavatory and remained there for an extended period of time...

TSA Office of Intelligence Comment: Although there is no information that the aircraft was being specifically targeted for a future terrorist attack, the actions of the four passengers are highly suspicious. FFDO confirmation of possible tampering of the lavatory mirror in one of the lavatories could be indicative of an attempt to locate concealment areas for smuggling criminal contraband or terrorist materials. In this case, it appears the left lavatory was the sole area of interest for the passengers. One subject's excuse that the right lavatory was dirty when it was confirmed to be clean shows the four passengers had a specific, operational objective. Although unconfirmed at this time, this incident has many of the elements of pre-operational terrorist planning....

Before August 2006, the TSA refused to admit publicly that terrorists took dry runs and probes on U.S. aircraft (after the London Planes Plot, the White House stated, "we know they do dry runs" and TSA quietly agreed). Unless there have been 177 such incidents in the past fifteen months, one wonders when TSA Suspicious Incident Reports #1-#176 occurred — and what information they contain?


TOPICS: War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airlinesafety; islam; terror; tsa
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It really is just a matter of time. Who were the "subjects," and where are they now?
1 posted on 11/18/2007 8:16:16 AM PST by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD

Damn Amish.

2 posted on 11/18/2007 8:19:47 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro

I tell you, man ... that little one just has a look on her face. You know she’s thinkin’ bad things... and brother Caleb... never joined in at the barn raisings, always something weird about THAT guy


3 posted on 11/18/2007 8:24:05 AM PST by RepoGirl ("Tom, I'm getting dead from you, but I'm not getting Undead..." -- Frasier Crane)
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To: 3AngelaD

Midwest Airlines 717. Lots of places to hide things behind the mirrors in the lavs but getting it onboard is going to be the work of a plant on the ramp. And that’s where TSA should be concentrating its efforts by properly screening employees who have access to the aircraft.


4 posted on 11/18/2007 8:30:25 AM PST by CARTOUCHE ( The pen is mightier than the sword and so much easier to conceal)
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To: RepoGirl

And Caleb has been known to wear deodorant on Saturday nights which further makes his actions suspect.


5 posted on 11/18/2007 8:32:33 AM PST by CARTOUCHE ( The pen is mightier than the sword and so much easier to conceal)
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To: 3AngelaD

Ping


6 posted on 11/18/2007 8:33:25 AM PST by angelsonmyside
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To: CARTOUCHE
Those extremist Amish. Eschewing nog and scrapple because they are ‘impure’ ... just plain wrong.
7 posted on 11/18/2007 8:35:48 AM PST by RepoGirl ("Tom, I'm getting dead from you, but I'm not getting Undead..." -- Frasier Crane)
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To: 3AngelaD

Why aren’t their cameras in the airplane lavs? The things are so tiny that you could surely see the whole thing. If someone tried to cover up the camera that would be a red flag in and of itself. Surely there are privacy concerns but I’d say safety would trump privacy here.


8 posted on 11/18/2007 8:36:11 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Um, no.


9 posted on 11/18/2007 8:39:13 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (I like Duncan Hunter)
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To: 3AngelaD

The left/right bathroom issue is interesting. If they were doing the old “let’s try to build a bomb in the bathroom” routine, it wouldn’t matter which side they picked first.

I’d bet that there’s something interesting on one side of the plane that’s not on the other side of the plane. Hydraulic lines, computer cables, something like that.


10 posted on 11/18/2007 8:48:37 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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Lots of places to hide things behind the mirrors in the lavs but getting it onboard is going to be the work of a plant on the ramp. And that’s where TSA should be concentrating its efforts by properly screening employees who have access to the aircraft.

Good point.

It could also become an assembly spot for ordinary materials that passengers could carry aboard. When put together in a bathroom the pieces would create an explosive device or a weapon.

11 posted on 11/18/2007 8:52:57 AM PST by melancholy (Beware of Ho Chi Minh's offspring, Ho She Marx , invading the WH.)
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To: 3AngelaD

We need to keep using racial profiling or just make it illegal for Muslims to fly on any US plane. Granted there are white Muslims out there but with the proper survellance that can be dealt with.

In all respects though the real problem lies with Islam and middle east oil, we need to destroy all of the oil producing capability of the middle east, let them go back to the origins they want of the minimal basics and prayer worship. We do not need oil from them, buying their oil is sending money to fund them and nobody is willing to accept that.


12 posted on 11/18/2007 9:02:34 AM PST by Eye of Unk
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To: BlackHood55

ping


13 posted on 11/18/2007 9:03:49 AM PST by Shimmer
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To: 3AngelaD

Great article, thanks for posting.


14 posted on 11/18/2007 9:04:53 AM PST by khnyny (Although prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it be postponed. Winston Churchill)
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To: 3AngelaD

Just too much!

Soon the airlines will make us all wear Depends.


15 posted on 11/18/2007 9:12:55 AM PST by jacquej
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To: martin_fierro
LOL!....I agree, they're ALL wearing articles of "White" clothing.... :D
16 posted on 11/18/2007 9:23:42 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....Run, Fred, Run. :^)
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"Soon the airlines will make us all wear Depends."

So much for strip searches.

17 posted on 11/18/2007 9:27:10 AM PST by OldEagle
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To: jiggyboy

Bingo, very perceptive as that is exactly the case on this particular aircraft.


18 posted on 11/18/2007 9:37:42 AM PST by CARTOUCHE ( The pen is mightier than the sword and so much easier to conceal)
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To: Eye of Unk
We need to keep using racial profiling

Keep? Let's try start!

19 posted on 11/18/2007 9:46:31 AM PST by Mygirlsmom (Bill and Hill are perfectly clear on the meaning of "is" as long as it's used in the word SOCIALIST)
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To: martin_fierro

I agree: round up the usual suspects...


20 posted on 11/18/2007 10:07:51 AM PST by thinking
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