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McCarthy & American Jews
11/17/08 | Vanity

Posted on 11/17/2007 12:27:11 PM PST by ckilmer

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1 posted on 11/17/2007 12:27:14 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

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2 posted on 11/17/2007 12:35:18 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: Zerodown

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3 posted on 11/17/2007 12:36:07 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

So somehow the the stirrings of a Communist plot to pogrom Jews in Russia via Stalin was transferred to McCarthy’s hearings into the depth of Communistic Jews in the US?

IE the intellectuals in NY/LA were Communists and used Stalin’s plot to smear McCarthy?


4 posted on 11/17/2007 12:41:28 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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IE the intellectuals in NY/LA were Communists and used Stalin’s plot to smear McCarthy?
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Some probably believed that a pogrom/gulag was in the offing—but that they were saved by the vigorous/resolute anti McCarthy work of democrats/liberals/leftists/communists.


5 posted on 11/17/2007 12:57:49 PM PST by ckilmer
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Yet to this day the American jews still vote democratic by hefty majorities. Why?

Because like the overwealmingly majority of black voter that also vote Democraps, they are an "idiot" voting block! Lemmings without thought!

6 posted on 11/17/2007 12:58:06 PM PST by Bommer ("He that controls the spice controls the universe!" (unfortunately that spice is Nutmeg!)
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Because like the overwealmingly majority of black voter that also vote Democraps, they are an “idiot” voting block! Lemmings without thought!
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I disagree. Everyone has a narrative map by which they view the world. Sometimes the narrative map is well thought out. Sometimes not.


7 posted on 11/17/2007 1:13:40 PM PST by ckilmer
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"The reason that Hollywood hated Ronald Reagan so much was that he was an anti communist in Hollywood during the McCarthy period. To be staunchly anti communist in Hollywood or NYC at that time was to be at least vaguely anti semitic because in the 30’s to the 50’s communism was considered to be almost a secular form of Judaism in the Jewish communities of NY/LA."

While somewhat young, and not politically astute, I do remember the term "anti-anticommunist" being used a lot during the 50's and very early 60's. It was a term of derision used by the leftist intelligentsia of NYC in those days. I recently read Norman Podhoeretz's "Ex Friends," and it brought it back to me quite vividly.

8 posted on 11/17/2007 1:37:45 PM PST by VR-21
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Everyone has a narrative map by which they view the world. Sometimes the narrative map is well thought out. Sometimes not.

Not when the voting block for one party with a race is 90%. That is Lemming mentality.

9 posted on 11/17/2007 1:55:21 PM PST by Bommer ("He that controls the spice controls the universe!" (unfortunately that spice is Nutmeg!)
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Because like the overwhelmingly majority of black voter that also vote Democraps, they are an "idiot" voting block! Lemmings without thought!

They do act rationally if you understand that many Jews view the Republican Party as the Christian party.

From the article:
Protestant America was painted as the tribal enemy tooth and claw of the US jewish establishment without Protestant America even knowing it. Never again! — Was the battle cry. But there weren’t any such enemies of Jews in the USA. If there actually had been Protestant tribal enemies in the USA, Meyer Kahane and his Jewish Defense League would have provoked them into a bloodletting. Why did Meyer Kahane behave the way he did? Because he heard the same thing as everyone else - all the Jews, that is. He heard about enemies of the jews in the heartland.

It is a fact that in many parts of the Jewish community there is a folk tradition of beware the Christians. This tradition stems from the history of many Jewish communities in eastern Europe being subject of pogroms after Easter services.

10 posted on 11/17/2007 2:52:41 PM PST by Fraxinus (My opinion worth what you paid.)
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Its funny that Jews vote for a party that has more in common with the NAZI Party and blacks vote for the party that invesnted the KKK, Jim Crowe laws and segragation. Thats why I just don’t think they think!


11 posted on 11/17/2007 3:35:06 PM PST by Bommer ("He that controls the spice controls the universe!" (unfortunately that spice is Nutmeg!)
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C-SPAN will re-broadcast a program with M. Stanton Evans tonight (midnight ET), talking about his new book on McCarthy. He goes into the misrepresentations that have been foisted on the public, including in that movie “Good Night and Good Luck.”


12 posted on 11/17/2007 6:47:43 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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I don’t know how Meir Kahane gets dragged into this. He despised the lemming like democrat loyalty of the Jewish community. He did not regard all American Christians as the enemies of the Jews. He feared that there was plenty of untapped anti-Semitism, which without vigilance, could blossom into a serious danger to the Jews of America. I remember his pointing out a bumper sticker which appeared at the time of the 1973 oil crisis: Burn Jews, Not Oil. One has only to go to a few of the hate sites like Vanguard or even look around at what the left is saying these days to know that anti-Semitism is alive and real in America.

I knew Kahane and I can tell you his fight was only to get Jews to defend themselves against anti-Semites. The slogan of the Jewish Defense League tells the whole story: in the post-holocaust world he said “Never Again” will Jews sit quietly buy and allow anti-Semites to beat and kill Jews without consequence.


13 posted on 11/17/2007 7:57:50 PM PST by JewishRighter ( Anyone But Hillary)
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This is a fascinating analysis. Thank you for posting it as I encouraged you to do (I note that for the benefit of the people I'm pinging).

14 posted on 11/18/2007 12:18:05 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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There certainly was the belief that there existed a Christian — to be more specific, Irish Catholic — witch hunt against the Jews, led by Joe McCarthy and his young lead counsel, Robert Kennedy. One young Jewish lawyer argued that McCarthy’s staff should have a prominent Jew to head off that charge — and that’s how the odious Roy Cohn landed himself a job.


15 posted on 11/18/2007 12:27:44 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

BTTT


16 posted on 11/18/2007 2:54:13 AM PST by E.G.C.
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I knew Kahane and I can tell you his fight was only to get Jews to defend themselves against anti-Semites. The slogan of the Jewish Defense League tells the whole story: in the post-holocaust world he said “Never Again” will Jews sit quietly buy and allow anti-Semites to beat and kill Jews without consequence.
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All true. But Meyer was a warrior. My point was that a warrior needs a war. Meyer wasn’t getting a war from the USA. So he turned his attention elsewhere.


17 posted on 11/18/2007 5:58:38 AM PST by ckilmer
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Meir Kahane was brought in by the original author, I quoted his paragraph as an example of how segments of the Jewish community are very ready to assume the worst of Christians.

I strongly believe that part of the reason Jews vote ~80% Democrat is due to declarations by some Christian conservatives that the US is a Christian nation. For parts of the Jewish community this is viewed as antisemitic and a prelude to excluding Jews from legal protection.

18 posted on 11/18/2007 6:59:01 AM PST by Fraxinus (My opinion worth what you paid.)
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Very interesting. Thanks for the ping. Very interesting thread. Thanks to all contributors.

History/education/philosophy BTTT!


19 posted on 11/18/2007 7:03:24 AM PST by PGalt
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As with many opinion pieces, there is some ‘fact’ and some ‘opinion’ most can agree with, for instance:
“Those people are not just confusing, they are confused.”
Equally, much fact is missing (or hidden), for instance:
McCarthy was right!
In order to have a persecution complex, it helps to be persecuted, and Democrats make for easy targets!
Saul Alinsky?


20 posted on 11/18/2007 12:45:12 PM PST by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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