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McCarthy & American Jews
11/17/08 | Vanity

Posted on 11/17/2007 12:27:11 PM PST by ckilmer

McCarthy & American Jews.

Waves of immigrants came to the USA from 1880-1920: the Poles the Italians the Irish the Jews. Most of these ethnic groups voted for FDR by large majorities in 1932, 1936 & 1940, but over time they have assimilated and become less politically monolithic. Yet to this day the American jews still vote democratic by hefty majorities. Why? It is because Hollywood still strenuously maintains the communist lie about the 1950-54 McCarthy era. That lie is maintained by the recent movies “A Beautiful Mind,” and “Good Night and Good Luck”.

Shortly before his death in 1953 Stalin initiated the Doctor’s Plot. There are various reasons given for that. The KGB hated Israel. Many Americans who were enthusiastic supporters of the UN were Jewish. Edvard Radzinsky in his book “Stalin” argues that while at one time Stalin hoped Jewish financial capital would help rebuild the Soviet Union after the WWII, Stalin hated the prospect of suborning himself to the Baruch Plan and he flat out rejected IAEA nuclear controls—presented in 1946 (an attitude is not entirely dissimliar to that of Iran today.) The Russians were working on their own A-bomb based on stolen US designs. Stalin, himself a Geogian, wanted to insure that the Russians saw a Russian face to a Communist Party which was top heavy with Jews.

Whatever the reason, Stalin fomented the Doctor’s plot hysteria and broke off diplomatic relations with Israel. He was within days of preparing to exile the Soviet Jews to the Gulag (as was done previously with various other ethnic minorities such as the Crimean Tatars, Chechens, etc.), and initiate another great purge along the lines of 1938.

Stalin already had the concentration camps set up, and some of the preliminary accusations had gone out for the Doctor’s Plot. 100 or so Russian jews had already been executed when he died in 1953. The important thing to recall is that the Doctor’s Plot happened at the same time as the McCarthy anti communist business from 1950-54. Also in 1953, in the US the Rosenburgs were tried and executed for treason—and this less than a decade after the Holocaust. This naturally caused fear and suspicion in the US Jewish community. This fear and suspicion was played upon by knowledgeable communists and leftists—large numbers of whom were themselves jewish. These folk not only knew about what Stalin had done in the 1930s and had been about to do with the doctor’s plot before he died, but also saw the McCarthy trials as show trials american style . . . that is, a prelude to an american pogrom. For which the Rosenbergs were exhibit A.

In a brilliant piece of jujitsu, leftists and communists imputed to Americans on the right exactly what Stalin had planned to do. But it was done soto voce. Basically, a blood libel was perpetrated on Americans without their knowing it. Worse, Protestant America was painted as the tribal enemy tooth and claw of the US jewish establishment without Protestant America even knowing it. Never again! — Was the battle cry. But there weren’t any such enemies of Jews in the USA. If there actually had been Protestant tribal enemies in the USA, Meyer Kahane and his Jewish Defense League would have provoked them into a bloodletting. Why did Meyer Kahane behave the way he did? Because he heard the same thing as everyone else - all the Jews, that is. He heard about enemies of the jews in the heartland. But when he went to give battle, the only sorts of fights the JDL could find resulted in unintelligible court disputes in places like Idaho. In the end, Kahane married an American woman & helped expedite Stalin’s last wish—to rid Russia of Jews. When his American wife committed suicide, Kahane lost interest in the USA and focused instead on Israel. When Kahane died in 1990 it was at the hands of a Moslem.

While the American public outside NY/LA were generally given the view that the McCarthy era was an age when innocent men were unjustly tried by suspicious anti semites like McCarthy & Nixon, the NY/LA Jewish establishment was given a very different story. They were given to understand that the democrats/liberals had prevented the US from visiting a holocaust on them - and that American Jews owed their loyalty to the liberal democrats because the liberal democrats were the protectors of the Jews. And this Meme went on untouched for decades after McCarthy.

This dual track story line didn’t crack until the early 1990’s when the KGB/NKVD/GRU opened up their files on the WWII-McCarthy period. In 1995 the US’s National Security Agency opened up their Venona files. Both Russian and American spy agency files showed that McCarthy was right. The Rosenburgs were guilty. The US government —notably including the Manhattan Project—had been at one time soaked with Russian Spies. While McCarthy had the details wrong, he got the general outline of the story right. Why did McCarthy get the outline right and the details wrong? The reason is that McCarthy’s relationship to Hoover was the same as Hoover’s relationship to the NSA.

The NSA told the FBI about the Venona intercepts but insisted that the FBI could not use NSA intercepts as evidence in court. The FBI had to develop their own leads. As a result most of the spies escaped prosecution. The FBI did not get their man.

In 1950 J. Edgar Hoover began weekly meetings with Joseph McCarthy. Those meetings ended in 1954. The beginning and end of those meetings coincided with the beginning and end of McCarthy star turn in the national spot light. McCarthy got most of the details of the spy story wrong but he got the general outline of the story right. His predicament was the same as that of the FBI. Whatever Hoover told him—McCarthy could not use in the senate hearings. To this day the FBI denies that Hoover told McCarthy anything about the Venona Cables and maybe Hoover said nothing explicit to McCarthy for which Hoover could be liable in court.

Needless to say, an American style shoah was never in the cards.

The reason that Hollywood hated Ronald Reagan so much was that he was an anti communist in Hollywood during the McCarthy period. To be staunchly anti communist in Hollywood or NYC at that time was to be at least vaguely anti semitic because in the 30’s to the 50’s communism was considered to be almost a secular form of Judaism in the Jewish communities of NY/LA. Given the reputation of the Jews in capitalist countries as the quintessential capitalists, this seems ironic. But in Russia, communism was a way to get ahead for the jews. And in addition to the opportunities communism presented to Jews, there was a biblical antecedent for jewish communists in the bible in the person of Joseph in Egypt because the relationship between Jews to Joseph’s Egypt maps over well to that between Jews and Communist Russia. And the history of the Jews from Joseph to Moses looks very similar to the rise to prominence of many Jews in the soviet communist bureaucracy from the 1917-1970 and the decades long expulsion of Russia’s jews after 1970 when it became clear that communism was not working. The Russians blamed Russian jews for the failure of communism.

Reagan was among the first wave of FDR democrats to switch parties. Reagan’s star turn in Hollywood ended after McCarthy, but his experiences in Hollywood served him well when he went into public service. He always understood the jujitsu of media talk of the age. Something that cannot be said of Nixon. Nixon's rise to prominance began with his role with the House Unamerican Activities Committee (HUAC)--a role for which gained visceral leftist enemies with long memories (in the way John Kerry gained prominence during the Viet Nam era and made visceral enemies of the swift boat veterans.) Nixons fall also coincides with the Russian expulsion of Russia's jews.

I would not argue that Nixon paid the price for Russia's expulsion of Russian jews. That stretches the point. However, when I hear American based Moslems talking about McCarthyism being visited on them, I have to laugh. They have unknowingly pronounced themselves guilty in the eyes of many Americans.

The history of the McCarthy period now is forgotten among American Jews except for the vague idea that somehow Republicans are bad and somehow Democrats are good.

As for the Democrats, part of the reason for the loss of their inner coherence in the last decade has been that the part of their foundational raison d’être which stems from the McCarthy era was revealed to be based on a lie. So now the core of the Democratic Party is the sodomites. Those people are not just confusing, they are confused.

David Horowitz interviewed by Rush Limbaugh some months ago -- talked about how his parents were communists and he was a communist in college. He said when he was in college his views were always treated respectfully by his professors. But, he said recently, a young Christian college student told him that his homosexual college professor had singled him out in class and asked him “Why do you Christians hate queers?” Asked why he continued to do what he did in the face of all the abuse he gets, David Horowitz said that - like Rush - he took public political positions because he had to. But also he said he did it as a matter of atonement.

He gets it.

Venona Historical Writings that include comparisons of venona and russian spy lists and the changing venona story in the academy. http://www.johnearlhaynes.org/page43.html http://www.johnearlhaynes.org/index.html


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: jews; mccarthy; stalin; venona
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1 posted on 11/17/2007 12:27:14 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

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2 posted on 11/17/2007 12:35:18 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: Zerodown

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3 posted on 11/17/2007 12:36:07 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

So somehow the the stirrings of a Communist plot to pogrom Jews in Russia via Stalin was transferred to McCarthy’s hearings into the depth of Communistic Jews in the US?

IE the intellectuals in NY/LA were Communists and used Stalin’s plot to smear McCarthy?


4 posted on 11/17/2007 12:41:28 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: padre35

IE the intellectuals in NY/LA were Communists and used Stalin’s plot to smear McCarthy?
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Some probably believed that a pogrom/gulag was in the offing—but that they were saved by the vigorous/resolute anti McCarthy work of democrats/liberals/leftists/communists.


5 posted on 11/17/2007 12:57:49 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer
Yet to this day the American jews still vote democratic by hefty majorities. Why?

Because like the overwealmingly majority of black voter that also vote Democraps, they are an "idiot" voting block! Lemmings without thought!

6 posted on 11/17/2007 12:58:06 PM PST by Bommer ("He that controls the spice controls the universe!" (unfortunately that spice is Nutmeg!)
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Because like the overwealmingly majority of black voter that also vote Democraps, they are an “idiot” voting block! Lemmings without thought!
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I disagree. Everyone has a narrative map by which they view the world. Sometimes the narrative map is well thought out. Sometimes not.


7 posted on 11/17/2007 1:13:40 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer
"The reason that Hollywood hated Ronald Reagan so much was that he was an anti communist in Hollywood during the McCarthy period. To be staunchly anti communist in Hollywood or NYC at that time was to be at least vaguely anti semitic because in the 30’s to the 50’s communism was considered to be almost a secular form of Judaism in the Jewish communities of NY/LA."

While somewhat young, and not politically astute, I do remember the term "anti-anticommunist" being used a lot during the 50's and very early 60's. It was a term of derision used by the leftist intelligentsia of NYC in those days. I recently read Norman Podhoeretz's "Ex Friends," and it brought it back to me quite vividly.

8 posted on 11/17/2007 1:37:45 PM PST by VR-21
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To: ckilmer
Everyone has a narrative map by which they view the world. Sometimes the narrative map is well thought out. Sometimes not.

Not when the voting block for one party with a race is 90%. That is Lemming mentality.

9 posted on 11/17/2007 1:55:21 PM PST by Bommer ("He that controls the spice controls the universe!" (unfortunately that spice is Nutmeg!)
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To: Bommer
Because like the overwhelmingly majority of black voter that also vote Democraps, they are an "idiot" voting block! Lemmings without thought!

They do act rationally if you understand that many Jews view the Republican Party as the Christian party.

From the article:
Protestant America was painted as the tribal enemy tooth and claw of the US jewish establishment without Protestant America even knowing it. Never again! — Was the battle cry. But there weren’t any such enemies of Jews in the USA. If there actually had been Protestant tribal enemies in the USA, Meyer Kahane and his Jewish Defense League would have provoked them into a bloodletting. Why did Meyer Kahane behave the way he did? Because he heard the same thing as everyone else - all the Jews, that is. He heard about enemies of the jews in the heartland.

It is a fact that in many parts of the Jewish community there is a folk tradition of beware the Christians. This tradition stems from the history of many Jewish communities in eastern Europe being subject of pogroms after Easter services.

10 posted on 11/17/2007 2:52:41 PM PST by Fraxinus (My opinion worth what you paid.)
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To: Fraxinus

Its funny that Jews vote for a party that has more in common with the NAZI Party and blacks vote for the party that invesnted the KKK, Jim Crowe laws and segragation. Thats why I just don’t think they think!


11 posted on 11/17/2007 3:35:06 PM PST by Bommer ("He that controls the spice controls the universe!" (unfortunately that spice is Nutmeg!)
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To: ckilmer

C-SPAN will re-broadcast a program with M. Stanton Evans tonight (midnight ET), talking about his new book on McCarthy. He goes into the misrepresentations that have been foisted on the public, including in that movie “Good Night and Good Luck.”


12 posted on 11/17/2007 6:47:43 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Fraxinus

I don’t know how Meir Kahane gets dragged into this. He despised the lemming like democrat loyalty of the Jewish community. He did not regard all American Christians as the enemies of the Jews. He feared that there was plenty of untapped anti-Semitism, which without vigilance, could blossom into a serious danger to the Jews of America. I remember his pointing out a bumper sticker which appeared at the time of the 1973 oil crisis: Burn Jews, Not Oil. One has only to go to a few of the hate sites like Vanguard or even look around at what the left is saying these days to know that anti-Semitism is alive and real in America.

I knew Kahane and I can tell you his fight was only to get Jews to defend themselves against anti-Semites. The slogan of the Jewish Defense League tells the whole story: in the post-holocaust world he said “Never Again” will Jews sit quietly buy and allow anti-Semites to beat and kill Jews without consequence.


13 posted on 11/17/2007 7:57:50 PM PST by JewishRighter ( Anyone But Hillary)
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To: ckilmer; Obadiah; Mind-numbed Robot; Zacs Mom; A.Hun; johnny7; The Spirit Of Allegiance; ...
This is a fascinating analysis. Thank you for posting it as I encouraged you to do (I note that for the benefit of the people I'm pinging).

14 posted on 11/18/2007 12:18:05 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: ckilmer

There certainly was the belief that there existed a Christian — to be more specific, Irish Catholic — witch hunt against the Jews, led by Joe McCarthy and his young lead counsel, Robert Kennedy. One young Jewish lawyer argued that McCarthy’s staff should have a prominent Jew to head off that charge — and that’s how the odious Roy Cohn landed himself a job.


15 posted on 11/18/2007 12:27:44 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

BTTT


16 posted on 11/18/2007 2:54:13 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: JewishRighter

I knew Kahane and I can tell you his fight was only to get Jews to defend themselves against anti-Semites. The slogan of the Jewish Defense League tells the whole story: in the post-holocaust world he said “Never Again” will Jews sit quietly buy and allow anti-Semites to beat and kill Jews without consequence.
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All true. But Meyer was a warrior. My point was that a warrior needs a war. Meyer wasn’t getting a war from the USA. So he turned his attention elsewhere.


17 posted on 11/18/2007 5:58:38 AM PST by ckilmer
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To: JewishRighter
Meir Kahane was brought in by the original author, I quoted his paragraph as an example of how segments of the Jewish community are very ready to assume the worst of Christians.

I strongly believe that part of the reason Jews vote ~80% Democrat is due to declarations by some Christian conservatives that the US is a Christian nation. For parts of the Jewish community this is viewed as antisemitic and a prelude to excluding Jews from legal protection.

18 posted on 11/18/2007 6:59:01 AM PST by Fraxinus (My opinion worth what you paid.)
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Very interesting. Thanks for the ping. Very interesting thread. Thanks to all contributors.

History/education/philosophy BTTT!


19 posted on 11/18/2007 7:03:24 AM PST by PGalt
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To: ckilmer

As with many opinion pieces, there is some ‘fact’ and some ‘opinion’ most can agree with, for instance:
“Those people are not just confusing, they are confused.”
Equally, much fact is missing (or hidden), for instance:
McCarthy was right!
In order to have a persecution complex, it helps to be persecuted, and Democrats make for easy targets!
Saul Alinsky?


20 posted on 11/18/2007 12:45:12 PM PST by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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