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ADL Taking Concerns to Ron Paul [will request he publicly "distance himself" from racist supporters]
JTA.org ^ | 11/15/2007 | Staff

Posted on 11/16/2007 8:10:31 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

The Anti-Defamation League plans to ask Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul to distance himself from extremist groups.

Paul, a U.S. congressman from Texas, has come under fire for the support his campaign has enjoyed from leading white supremacist and neo-Nazi groups.

His campaign reportedly has accepted a donation from Don Black, the owner of the white supremacist Web site Stormfront. Sites for several extremist groups also feature prominent links supporting Paul's candidacy.

ADL's assistant director of civil rights, Steven Freeman, told JTA his organization planned to communicate with Paul privately and urge him to distance himself from those groups.

"If he doesn't do that, then we will decide what we're going to say publicly about it," Freeman said.

Paul thus far has refused to return the campaign contribution from Black. In response to a question from a reporter for Reason magazine, a campaign spokesperson said, "If people who hold views that the candidate doesn't agree with, and they give to us, that's their loss."

The ADL previously has taken candidates to task for their ties to supremacist groups. Last year the organization slammed Larry Darby, a Democratic candidate for attorney general in Alabama, after he attended a meeting of the National Vanguard, a splinter group of the National Alliance. Darby was defeated.

In October 2001, the ADL commended New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani for rejecting a $10 million donation to a 9/11 relief fund from Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal. Giuliani, like Paul, is a Republican presidential candidate.


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To: mogambo
So why are you adopting a tactic that is used by and belongs to the ranks of those who substitute mindless emotionalism for any serious interaction with the facts?

No more so than this site's founder and owner, thank you. (Pay close attention to my sig line.) Do a Search for postings by "Jim Robinson"; read the ones relating specifically to Ron Paul; and then get back to me.

Thanks for the advice. If I need any help on how to do this, should I ask you for help?

FReepmail "Jim Robinson," "Lead Moderator" or "Admin Moderator."

41 posted on 11/16/2007 9:47:28 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: mogambo
Every candidate attracts the weird, the fringe, and the creeps. I actually get tired of these idiotic gibefests consisting of "Goebbels gave you a thousand dollars, are you going to give it back or do you [gasp] SUPPORT BURNING JEWS?" This is just stupid and brainless, and even more so when a candidate has to "distance" himself from the loons.

But in this case we're not just talking about small donations from miscellaneous loons. Stormfront.org runs a Ron Paul banner ad on every page. Meanwhile, Stormfront promotes a white supremacist platform directly in opposition to the libertarian core principles Paul putatively supports.

42 posted on 11/16/2007 9:49:14 AM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: mysterio

Try these for starters.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/global_taxes.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/270207ronpaul.htm


43 posted on 11/16/2007 9:52:44 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: mogambo

Well said.


44 posted on 11/16/2007 10:28:00 AM PST by logician2u
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To: mogambo
Did he write "for" the New American? I don't think so. I think Ron Paul's take on the stuff he writes is that it is non-copyrighted and able to be reproduced without restrictions by whomever prints it....If that is the case, then he doesn't need to play the incredibly stupid PC game of "distancing" himself....This *IS* a conservative website, right? I understand that Ron Paul is not popular here, but why do you let your dislike for him propel you into such an idiotic posturing that really belongs with the leftists?

I don't know about the New American.

His column is published by the American Free Press, a Willis Carto publication, and is advertised as a columnist by them. The fact that he allows publication at will is Paul's decision, he's responsible for it.

He could stop publication in in a hate rag in an instant if he desired. He could stop them from advertising him to readers and advertisers as a columnist in an instant if he desired. Those are facts.

Other Republicans have had no problem at all distancing themselves in similar circumstances. Instantly.

Don't like my posting here, think I a leftist, thanks for another example of the incessent bitching and whining of Paul's folk in the face of facts. Don't like me here, whine to management, if you're right they'll ban me.

Willis Carto

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Willis Carto

Willis Carto

Willis Allison Carto (born July 17, 1926 in Indiana) is a longtime figure on the far right wing of American politics. He describes himself as Jeffersonian and populist, although the Anti-Defamation League and other critics say he promotes thinly-disguised antisemitism and Neo-Nazism.

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Influences on Carto

Willis Carto was known to be a devotee of the writings of Francis Parker Yockey. Yockey was one of a handful of esoteric writers during the post-World War II era who researched Adolf Hitler. Yockey's best known book, Imperium, was adopted by Carto as his own guiding ideology. Later, Carto would define his ideology as Jeffersonian and populist rather than National Socialist, particularly in Carto's 1982 book, Profiles in Populism. That book presented sympathetic profiles of several United States political figures including Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson, as well as the controversial Catholic priest Father Charles Coughlin and Henry Ford. Critics charged that the book all but ignored Coughlin and Fords' virulent antisemitism, and that Carto remained a devotee of Yockey throughout the 1980s and 1990s.

The Anti-Defamation League, as well as other critics, believe that Willis Carto, more than anybody else, was responsible for keeping organized antisemitism alive as a movement in the United States during the latter half of the 20th century and into the 21st century. These critics have noted that Carto has founded some organizations, such as Liberty Lobby, with the intent of appearing to be respectable conservative, populist, or anti-Communist organizations, while founding other organizations that were racialist or National Socialist in nature.

Liberty Lobby and Newspapers

In 1955, Carto founded an organization called Liberty Lobby, which remained in operation under the control of Willis Carto until 2001, when the organization was forced into bankruptcy as a result of a lawsuit. Liberty Lobby was perhaps best known for publishing the newspaper, The Spotlight, between 1975 and 2001.

Carto and several "Spotlight" staff members and writers have since founded a new newspaper, called the American Free Press. The paper includes articles from syndicated columnists who have no direct ties to Carto or his organizations. As in its predecessor, it takes a populist tone and focuses on conspiracy theory, nationalist economics and Israel. One of its writers, Michael Collins Piper, hosts a weekday talk show on shortwave radio that is pointedly anti-Zionist.

Other activities in the 1950s and 1960s

In 1966, Carto acquired control of The American Mercury via the Legion for the Survival of Freedom organization. The magazine was once a highly respected periodical associated with H.L. Mencken, but which was failing by the time Carto acquired it. It was published until 1980.

After the failed third party presidential campaign of George Wallace in 1968, Carto acquired control of what was left of the Youth for Wallace organization, and transformed it into an openly racist youth organization called the National Youth Alliance. Carto eventually lost control of the National Youth Alliance to a rival, William Luther Pierce, who transformed it into the National Alliance, which is today an American white racist organizations.

Carto, Revisionism and Holocaust Denial

Carto was also the founder of a publishing company called Noontide Press, which published a number of books on white racialism, including Yockey's Imperium and David Hoggan's The Myth of the Six Million, one of the first books to deny the Holocaust. Noontide Press later became closely associated with the Institute for Historical Review (IHR), and fell out of Carto's hands at the same time as the IHR did. The IHR was founded by Willis Carto in 1979, with the intent of promoting the proposition that the Nazi Holocaust never happened - a view known as Holocaust denial. After losing control of Noontide Press and the IHR in a hostile takeover by former associates, Carto started another publication, "The Barnes Review", which also focuses on Holocaust denial.

Populist Party (1984-1996)

In 1984, Willis Carto was involved in starting a new political party called the Populist Party. It quickly fell out of his hands in a hostile takeover by disgruntled former associates. Critics asserted that this Populist Party (not to be confused with the Populist Party of 1889) was little more than an electoral vehicle for current and former Ku Klux Klan and Christian Identity members. Olympic athlete Bob Richards (1984), David Duke (a founder of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan and a future Louisiana state representative, 1988) and former Green Beret Bo Gritz (1992) were the Populist Party's only three presidential candidates. It folded before it could nominate a candidate for the 1996 elections.

Other activities

Carto's Liberty Lobby acquired the Sun Radio Network in December 1989, and attempted to use talk radio as a vehicle for espousing his views. It was eventually a financial failure. Liberty Lobby and American Free Press also sponsored the Radio Free America talk show, hosted by Tom Valentine.

In 2004, Carto joined in signing the New Orleans Protocol on behalf of American Free Press. The New Orleans Protocol seeks to "mainstream our cause" by reducing violence and internecine warfare. It was written by David Duke.

External links

References

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis_Carto"

 


45 posted on 11/16/2007 10:31:46 AM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

The Anti-Defamation League plans to ask Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul to distance himself from extremist groups.

Um...that would encompass nearly all of his constituents.

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Does anyone know?

Are they speaking of the the Jewish Anti-Defamation League? Aren’t they a racist, extremist group that hates whites, Christians and America? Am I mistaken? Are they not the same group that was exposed for paying bribes to Law Enforcement Personell to gain illegal access to Law Enforcement Intelligence on their opponents/enemies a few years ago? Or is the ADL different than the JADL? Am I confusing two different groups?

Something about the Pot calling the Kettle Black comes to mind if I am not.

If the JDL had a gripe about Ron Paul I would at least consider their point... but the JADL?

Who are they? Should we really care what they say or think?

W


46 posted on 11/16/2007 10:37:33 AM PST by WLR (Armed Staff on School Campus. Build the Fence, Iran delenda est)
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To: BlazingArizona
But in this case we're not just talking about small donations from miscellaneous loons. Stormfront.org runs a Ron Paul banner ad on every page. Meanwhile, Stormfront promotes a white supremacist platform directly in opposition to the libertarian core principles Paul putatively supports.

And a $500 donation from Stormfront's founder, Don Black, obviously a prominent neonazi, but also a felon, having done three years for attempting to overthrow the government of Dominica along with a handful of fellow Klansmen.

A campaign can't possibly vet contributions like this, but when it's brought to their attention, you explain you didn't know, don't want the suupport, and return it. It's simple.

47 posted on 11/16/2007 10:38:39 AM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
The majority of Paul’s supporters look like a loose collection of extremists of all different stripes to me.

You've seen a majority of his supporters? Where? In Philadelphia?

The crowd at that rally was estimated at 3000-4000, and you notice that those hippies and anarchists had to bundle up against the cold. (What are they hiding under those bulky jackets?)

Of course you can't support your assertion, so why do you make it?

48 posted on 11/16/2007 10:44:17 AM PST by logician2u
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To: WLR; SJackson; Alouette
Aren’t they a racist, extremist group that hates whites, Christians and America? Am I mistaken?

"No" and "yes," in that order.

Feel free to cite any actual evidence to the contrary, certainly, via verifiable online links.

49 posted on 11/16/2007 10:53:49 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Interesting, I probably won’t waste my time.


50 posted on 11/16/2007 11:05:19 AM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: mogambo
What is NOT reasonable is to extrapolate that to some hysterical hissy fit and "associate" a writer (of any political or philosophical stripe) with some outfit that picks him up and quotes him. Ron Paul is no more responsible for the views of some Nazi than the editor of Free Republic is for articles written by a staffer at the New York Times...., even less so, as Paul simply dumps his stuff out there and lets anyone quote or cite them. This is common among many libertarians, and to tell the truth, they really don't give a rats ass if so called "conservatives" decide to act like liberals and snatch their skirts up in horror at the practice. AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A DEFENSE OF ANY PARTICULAR *PERSON*. IT IS AN ATTACK ON THE STUPID AND EMOTIONALLY MANIPULATIVE ACTIVITY THAT IS BENEATH THOSE WHO PROFESS TO BE CONSERVATIVE.

AFP doesn't "pick up" an occasional column, they publish him regularly and advertise him as a columnist. It's not an isolated incident. He was a frequent guest on American Free Radio in the 90s, sponsored by The Spotlight, Carto's former rag. He's regularly published by the Council of Conservative Citizens print publication.

As to the rest of your garbage, the opinion of me by a three day newbie means nothing, nor does you opinion that I'm a punk third grader.

Are you typical of Paul supporters, you act lik a real jerk. Just spreading the Revolution aren't you.

52 posted on 11/16/2007 11:25:43 AM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Um...that would encompass nearly all of his constituents.

Saying all the people in District 14 are extremists is just daft.

53 posted on 11/16/2007 11:37:36 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Judy Ruliani - Could our next president be a drag....queen?)
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To: mogambo
What is NOT reasonable is to extrapolate that to some hysterical hissy fit and "associate" a writer (of any political or philosophical stripe) with some outfit that picks him up and quotes him. Ron Paul is no more responsible for the views of some Nazi than the editor of Free Republic is for articles written by a staffer at the New York Times...., even less so, as Paul simply dumps his stuff out there and lets anyone quote or cite them. This is common among many libertarians, and to tell the truth, they really don't give a rats ass if so called "conservatives" decide to act like liberals and snatch their skirts up in horror at the practice. AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A DEFENSE OF ANY PARTICULAR *PERSON*. IT IS AN ATTACK ON THE STUPID AND EMOTIONALLY MANIPULATIVE ACTIVITY THAT IS BENEATH THOSE WHO PROFESS TO BE CONSERVATIVE.

Got a little on your chin, right there.

2) This is the second time on this thread I have been invited to complain to the moderators and try to "get you banned"

*yawwwwwwwnnnnnn* Baldfaced lie. Kindly cut and paste any sentence of mine, ANYwhere on this thread, where I've taunted, entreated or cajoled you into "trying to get [me] banned." In the sadly inevitable event of your being wholly incapable of providing any such quote: butch up, and apologize.

or should we just all ask John Robinson to post for us

Why are you attempting to drag the Guy Williams character from the old "Lost In Space" television show into this? Are you smoking "Liberty Dollars," or something...?

54 posted on 11/16/2007 11:46:45 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: SJackson
"As for what the campaign will do with the supremacist donations, Benton said white supremacists are wasting their money on Paul, a physician and long-time congressman from Texas. "We are not in the business of trying to track who is giving us money," Benton said. "If they want to waste their money on us we will take it and use it to promote freedom and individual rights, not their agenda."

There is no indication that Paul has courted right-wing support. But a wide array of white supremacist and neo-Nazi groups have backed him nonetheless, and there have been rumors about right-wing support in the blogosphere for months."

I think you should try reading the whole article...

56 posted on 11/16/2007 12:42:51 PM PST by no-s
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To: isthisnickcool
Saying all the people in District 14 are extremists is just daft.

Now THAT is the response I was expecting!

(The moment I hit post I realized I had wanted to say supporters and not "constituents". My apologies to the people of District 14.)

57 posted on 11/16/2007 12:46:58 PM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Ron Paul, ADL and the white supremacist groups are all a threat to conservatism.


58 posted on 11/16/2007 1:06:21 PM PST by free_life (Pro God is Pro life ~ ~ The Democrats are phony Americans.)
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59 posted on 11/16/2007 1:53:22 PM PST by lormand ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
You are forgiven. Just send money to Chris Peden.

I really doubt that Ron Paul is a racist. I've never heard anything like that about him. I doubt he hates Jews too.

Knowing Ron Paul I'd expect that his response will be something like "it's a free country" and that they can do what they want with their money. He'd probably look and say that "there is nothing wrong with it under the Constitution so what's the big deal?" Maybe he thinks that the more money he takes from them the less they have to spend on hate.

This is typical Ron Paul, he isn't going to be told what to do by anyone. And it's likely he won' be working with the ADL or anyone else that pressures him. And that's what's wrong with Ron Paul. He does not play nice with others. And the older he gets the worse he gets. And he never gets anything done. Talks a lot, but never does anything. Tha's the problem with Ron Paul, he simply cannot work with anyone else.

Ron Paul is a dud.

60 posted on 11/16/2007 2:35:56 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Judy Ruliani - Could our next president be a drag....queen?)
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