EX-Communicate the miserable wretches...
Posted on 11/15/2007 4:41:56 PM PST by Quiet Man Jr.
BALTIMORE - Cardinal Sean P. O'Malley of Boston, saying the Democratic Party has been persistently hostile to opponents of abortion rights, asserted yesterday that the support of many Catholics for Democratic candidates "borders on scandal."
In his sharpest comments about the political landscape since he was installed as archbishop of Boston four years ago, O'Malley made clear that, despite his differences with the Republican Party over immigration policy, capital punishment, economic issues, and the war in Iraq, he views abortion as the most important moral issue facing policymakers.
"I think the Democratic Party, which has been in many parts of the country traditionally the party which Catholics have supported, has been extremely insensitive to the church's position, on the gospel of life in particular, and on other moral issues," O'Malley said.
Acknowledging that Catholic voters in Massachusetts generally support Democratic candidates who are in favor of abortion rights, O'Malley said, "I think that, at times, it borders on scandal as far as I'm concerned."
"However, when I challenge people about this, they say, 'Well, bishop, we're not supporting [abortion rights],' " he said. "I think there's a need for people to very actively dissociate themselves from those unacceptable positions, and I think if they did that, then the party would have to change."
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Wow! Actually, last week at a conference I met a very pious and good priest who is truly devoted to Cdl O’Malley and thinks he’s very spiritual and is doing great things in Boston. I know a lot of people here don’t like him because he has closed churches - and I am opposed to that, too - but it seems that he must be doing something right. This priest, btw, is very traditionalist and has fought to keep his parish orthodox and to keep the physical layout of the church exactly as that of a Catholic church should be.
Ted Kennedy’s hit squad appearing at Cardinal O’Malley’s door in 3, 2, 1...
Wow.... A prelate that puts doctrine ahead of assets. This is rare among US Roman Catholic Hierarchy.
Roman Catholics in this state are the most consistently pro death, liberal Democrats of any left wingers of their demographic. The Catholic Dem’s hypocrisy is exceeded only by the elitist socialist dweebs who infest the university teaching ranks.
The sickest thing is that both groups have been co-opted by the evil Gay lobby, all in the name of diversity, of course and have joined together to force their twisted agendas on public school students.
EX-Communicate the miserable wretches...
That’s why I was so impressed by Cdl O’Malley. Boston is Dem Central, and always has been (among the Irish, at any rate), and this is definitely gutsy on O’Malley’s part.
What can I say,folks...I tried.
He might want to check in with the socialist governor of MD, Martin O’Malley. Raising taxes, spending growing at 7%, supporting gay marriages, and drivers licenses are already flowing to illegals.
Maybe think about the Pallotine brothers who controlled real estate for their own benefit in East Baltimore back in the ‘70s?
Turn over all the rocks, not just one. Like the queer priests and what’s the total settlement so far?
Remember, abortion was made illegal when the AMA made it a cause, not the Catholic church.
And BTW, I was a Catholic, gave up going to church for lent.
Ping! I believe you live in MA, don’t you? What do you think about this?
B-16 must have had a talk with the man. This is not like him.
Chalk it up to teaching 100 twelve year olds all day.
My 93 yr old Step-Mom, now deceased within the year, still belived that FDR was the leader of the RATS. Social Security was her main issue for voting RATS. I tried also
for the conversion -— no way!
So the Cardinal is wrong to point out that the Democrats are a pro-abortion party? I suppose any occasion is good enough to hurl bile at the hated Church for one of the bitter lapsed, eh? Obviously you must not have absorbed the actual teachings of the faith handed down from Christ and the apostles if you allow the sins of the Church's members drive you away from the channels of grace in the sacraments.
Oh, so it must be true then...NOT! The Democratic is not a big tent party on abortion, but an almost monolithic pro-abortion party, and the so-called "Catholic" politicians like the two senators of our state, Kennedy and Kerry, are among the most pro-abortion of the lot. I think it just reflects poorly on them that their faith means so little to them. And Senator Casey voted against the anti-abortion Mexico City policy, and his father, who was a true pro-lifer, was not even allowed to speak at a Democratic Presidential convention because of his anti-abortion stand.
“I suppose any occasion is good enough to hurl bile at the hated Church for one of the bitter lapsed, eh?
My past is now bile? What planet did you come from?
I was spared a Catholic schooling because their wasn’t a high school in most of the upper county, still isn’t, and when the oldest child transferred out to public school at the 9th grade their younger siblings followed, separated by about two weeks per transfer.
I couldn’t attend Sunday school for four years because the church didn’t seem to GARA at the time.
Our church at that time was a refreshment stand at a failed amusement park.
Every Protestant church in town offered to let us use their church but the clown they sent wanted a Catholic facility.
The Shrine of Czestahova denied us access to their facilities, only a few miles away. They spent big bucks on a new facility in ‘76 and Gerald Ford attended the opening ceremony. Run by the Jesuits.
The only thing they seemed to do well was pass the plate to raise money. Even that hit a speed bump when there where only two males attending mass to collect the dough. Had to enlist kids, I hope the other one hasn’t croaked already from a heart attack like his twin.
If you haven’t been where I’ve been STFU!
We had very low attendance in the early days of our parish, and a clown running the show who admitted he stole the money for the “Indians” in New Mexico to meet the mortgage on the church.
The mortgage was held by the church, not a bank, and the “Indians” were at the detox facility for drunks and queer clergy.
Most people catch on to scams early in life.
all those Irish names sound alike, mward ;)
Remind her to be sure and use that line during her particular judgment.
I'm pinging Cheverus for his comments -- he has more inside knowledge than I do.
As for O'Malley, I don't know. I have no reason to believe he's not pro-life, though his supposed anti-gay marriage position seems to me somewhat weakened by he fact that his top lay advisor had a pro-gay marriage column printed in one of the papers.
I guess I'm a little surprised that he mentioned the Dems by name, especially where it's obvious his heart lies with the Dems -- except for that pesky pro-abortion stance they insist on. In MA, however, who are we going to vote for? The MA Republican party, a few years ago, was seriously planning to put a pro-abortion plank in the state Republican platform.
I'm in Boston, so Republicas seldom run, though there are a few anti-abortion local Dems. The last Republican candidate for governor did a commercial describing her enthusiastic support for abortion.
You mentioned earlier that he's unpopular because of closing so many parishes, and I've mentioned elsewhere that awful letter read in the local churches listing the order in which the remaining parishes would be closed, as if he's meant to preside over the orderly liquidation of the archdiocese.
What bothered me most about the parish closings (and I wasn't directly affected) is that AFAIK he never expressed and sorrow about the need to close them, going so far as to lock students and teachers out of a Catholic school slated to be closed -- on what would have been the last day of school because he was afraid they'd make a scene. He seems to be a bit lacking in people skills to say the least!
You know he's implacably opposed to the TLM -- going so far as to attempt to stop one properly scheduled for 9/14 until he was told they'd go to the press.
I've never known anyone who was all good or all bad. No reason to think O'Malley is an exception. Though one would think an anti-abortion stance in a Catholic bishop would be too basic to be praiseworthy. He's probably not a murderer or an arsonist either, but it wouldn't occur to me to think he should get a medal for it!
Not quite sure I follow your story, but it seems you have had a bad experience. Perhaps you could offer it up and find a new, more stable parish? Christ asks us to enter in by the narrow gate.
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