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Federal Grand Jury Indicts Barry Bonds
AP ^ | 2:24 pm PST November 15, 2007 | AP via NBC11.com

Posted on 11/15/2007 2:29:59 PM PST by ECM

Baseball superstar Barry Bonds was charged Thursday with perjury and obstruction of justice for allegedly lying when he said he did not use performance-enhancing drugs.

The indictment, unsealed Thursday by federal prosecutors in San Francisco, is the culmination of a four-year federal probe into whether he lied under oath to a grand jury investigating steroid use by elite athletes.

The indictment comes three months after the 43-year-old Bonds, one of the biggest names in professional sports, passed Hank Aaron to become baseball's career home run leader, his sport's most hallowed record.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbc11.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: asterisk; barrybonds; baseball; bonds; mlb; steroids
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To: ECM

Bonds is a racist.
I predict there will be a huge effort to make this into a “sports lynching”.


21 posted on 11/15/2007 5:08:57 PM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "P" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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To: ECM

They guy cheated and lied to a grand jury about it and for this he faces up to 30 years in prison? Aren’t there enough real criminals to chase?


22 posted on 11/15/2007 5:19:23 PM PST by GSWarrior
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To: GSWarrior

It should not be criminal to lie to a grand jury?


23 posted on 11/15/2007 5:37:35 PM PST by aposiopetic
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To: ECM
The indictment, unsealed Thursday by federal prosecutors in San Francisco, is the culmination of a four-year federal probe into whether he lied under oath to a grand jury investigating steroid use by elite athletes.

What a waste of money. More idiotic federalization of crime, and not for doing anything, just process.
24 posted on 11/15/2007 6:37:51 PM PST by microgood
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To: ItsForTheChildren
Why are they wasting my tax dollars on this?

Because drugs are involved. They're filing this under the special Drug War Constitution, the one without any pesky amendments.

25 posted on 11/15/2007 9:22:16 PM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: aposiopetic
It should not be criminal to lie to a grand jury?

So far as I'm concerned, being ON a grand jury is a criminal act.

26 posted on 11/15/2007 9:24:03 PM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: ItsForTheChildren

Why are they wasting my tax dollars on this?

This is the best tax spending I have seen in years. Too see that shister behind bars would be worth the taxes spent.


27 posted on 11/15/2007 9:25:50 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Man50D

Why should there be an asterisk. WHy should his numbers be there at all.


28 posted on 11/15/2007 9:27:43 PM PST by poinq
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To: aposiopetic
It should not be criminal to lie to a grand jury?

No. If you refuse to talk to them they can throw you in prison, even though you have not been convicted or charged with any crime. Its a pretty one sided system and turns due process on its head. There is none..

You cannot have your lawyer present. What they do is ask you the same question 5000 different times and ways and if you change one word in the answer they charge you with perjury

I would never talk to a grand jury. They can always turn anything you say into perjury. I would just do the time for contempt
29 posted on 11/16/2007 12:11:00 AM PST by microgood
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To: ECM
I'm having trouble with this. The report I heard is that he could get up to 30 years. It was just about drugs. Everyone lies about drugs. I seem to remember some sort of precedent established by the husband of one of the candidates for President. For President. Bonds is just a friken ballplayer.

ML/NJ

30 posted on 11/16/2007 4:34:36 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: microgood

Not talking is not the same as lying.


31 posted on 11/16/2007 5:18:33 AM PST by aposiopetic
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To: ItsForTheChildren
Exactly... and pedophiles and criminals run free.
32 posted on 11/16/2007 5:19:16 AM PST by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: ItsForTheChildren
Your screen name answers your question.

;o)
33 posted on 11/16/2007 5:20:30 AM PST by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: aposiopetic
It should not be criminal to lie to a grand jury?

I don't think the feds should be involved in what goes on in baseball.

34 posted on 11/16/2007 9:00:54 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: aposiopetic
Not talking is not the same as lying.

Here is a good discussion of the perjury trap and how it is used.

Ironically, after the firing of the US Attorneys, they are trying to get the Assistant to the Attorney General to actually perjure herself about something that is not even an illegal act. Like all powers the government has, this one is abused extensively.

Except for the President, no other public official holds more power than a federal prosecutor with his poodle grand jury in tow.
35 posted on 11/16/2007 11:29:20 AM PST by microgood
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To: microgood; aposiopetic
Oops forgot to include the link

The Perjury Trap
36 posted on 11/16/2007 11:31:19 AM PST by microgood
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To: ECM

It will be interesting to see if a Lyle Alzado type fate awaits Barry Bonds.

I strongly suspect thats what will happen sometime in his future.


37 posted on 11/16/2007 11:32:58 AM PST by Badeye (That Karma thing keeps coming around, eh Sally? (chuckle))
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To: microgood

Thanks for the link to the Gershman article. I don’t doubt for a moment the reality of the trap. However, there are ways to deal with it other than by lying. If you are saying that the system ought to be changed, and that prosecutors and grand juries have too much power, you’ll not hear any objection from me.


38 posted on 11/16/2007 2:54:35 PM PST by aposiopetic
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To: aposiopetic
However, there are ways to deal with it other than by lying.

You are definitely right about that. 30 years is a long time. You never want to put yourself in that situation.
39 posted on 11/16/2007 3:07:09 PM PST by microgood
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To: Forgotten Amendments
Federal law enforcement is high school with guns.

No doubt in my mind.

Why any American who is wealthy enough doesn't have his or her assets parked beyond the reach of the obsessive-compulsive bureaucratic nutcases running the country is beyond me.

They should also have a plane on stand-by for these kind of eventualities...

40 posted on 11/16/2007 9:06:26 PM PST by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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