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FBI raids Liberty Dollar office-confiscates Ron Paul Dollars
http://www.rabidquill.com/ ^ | Nov 15, 2007 | "BJT"

Posted on 11/15/2007 7:50:21 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder

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To: Petronski

I’m not sure if you noticed, but Ron Paul is a U.S. Congressman who’s running for President. Throwing out press releases every time some kook, nutball, or suspected criminal uses his name is probably not the best or most efficient use of his time.

Do you think President Bush was involved in a 9/11 conspiracy because he hasn’t personally taken the time to publicly denounce every single crank loony website that says he was? Most people realize that national public figures attract all sorts of attention, and that it’s foolish to assume connections with every single person that proclaims their support just because the public figure hasn’t taken the time to specifically and publicly reject that person.


281 posted on 11/15/2007 9:45:30 AM PST by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
So, if we're only supposed to use the Feds fiat money then how do these guys get away with what they're doing?:

Dallas-based food chain to accept Mexican pesos

282 posted on 11/15/2007 9:45:59 AM PST by FReepaholic (This tagline could indicate global warming.)
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To: rineaux
There is a currency in use in Austin, Texas that shops accept as legal tender to make purchases of food, gas and some merchandise. It is suppose to be gaining some ground. Question is, will the FBI raid this place as well?

If you're talking about the Mexican peso, it happens to be a legal currency. There is no law against accepting legal foreign currencies as payment for goods and services. In fact, if there were then most currency exchange departments would be technically in violation since they accept foreign currencies as payment for dollars.

283 posted on 11/15/2007 9:45:59 AM PST by VRWCmember (Fred Thompson 2008! Taking America Back for Conservatives!)
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To: xtinct

Not a bad “coin”, but I’d sure have to say it pales against a US Silver Eagle. The US Gold coins aren’t especially wonderful, but the Ag Eagles are really beautiful. Got no problem with Mexican Onzas aka “Libertads”, either. Nice coins.

Prices here:
www.amark.com
www.tulving.com
www.apmex.com


284 posted on 11/15/2007 9:46:21 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This post sold by weight, not volume. Content may have settled during shipment.)
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To: wideawake
The scam is that he was selling $759.40 of gold for $1000, $13.82 of silver for $20 and 24 cents of copper for $1 dollar while simultaneously claiming that these coins were exchangeable "dollar-for-dollar" with legal tender currency.

The "spot price" is the per-ounce cost of a 500-ounce ingot of gold or silver located in New York. Saying that a one-ounce round is "worth" the spot price means that you want to rip off the trucker who carried the ingot to the mint and will carry the round to you, and the owner and operator of the mint who paid big bucks for the equipment and energy needed to convert that 500 ounce ingot into 500 one-ounce rounds.

285 posted on 11/15/2007 9:46:58 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: ctdonath2
They also have USA stamped on it and the US Mint and the DOJ warned them previously. DOJ has determined it is a federal crime. Play with fire and attempt to undermine our country while at war, you will get burned and deservedly so.
286 posted on 11/15/2007 9:47:05 AM PST by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Oh man, your new graphic is *almost* as good as the fat boy one.


287 posted on 11/15/2007 9:47:15 AM PST by lormand (Ron Paul - The Idiot's Idiot)
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To: ctdonath2

whither the “scam”?

because now they all of a sudden have no assets and if you want your money back you have to get it from the “other guys”


288 posted on 11/15/2007 9:47:29 AM PST by sfvgto (is Marion Barry a democrat?)
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To: Red Badger
How is their paper currency, legal or not is in debate , any different than your check you give to the grocer?..............

In keeping with that analogy, it is illegal to write bad checks.

They claim their currency is backed by gold, but they no longer have the gold.

Regardless of if it was legal before, it has no value now.

289 posted on 11/15/2007 9:48:34 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: null and void

I personally favor discussion rather than name-calling. Which is why I should have kept away from this thread to begin with. But, to each his own...


290 posted on 11/15/2007 9:50:17 AM PST by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: calex59

“Counterfeit” has a very specific meaning - an intent to defraud by presenting something worthless as if it had value.

When you have a pocket full of Liberty Dollars, you have the intrinsic value of the silver or gold of which they are made, and only a passing resemblance to US base-metal coinage.

Using the term “counterfeit” here is patently incorrect.


291 posted on 11/15/2007 9:51:51 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Turbopilot

True, but if one must name call, one should at least use a clever name to call.


292 posted on 11/15/2007 9:52:53 AM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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To: SJackson; Richard Poe; Jim Robinson; Southack; kcvl; Liz; pissant; Impeach98; stephenjohnbanker

Currency substitution with both an antiwar and profit agenda?

It may be merely a gargantuan coincidence that George Soros, one of the world’s most infamous currency-manipulators abroad, is unquestionably doing all sorts of things to disrupt our winning the WOT... and rumored to be a shadow supporter of Ron Paul to depress and split the Conservative vote....


293 posted on 11/15/2007 9:53:33 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: jrooney

Thank you for reminding me why I’m no longer a Republican. Long live the government goons and fiat currency, right?


294 posted on 11/15/2007 9:54:11 AM PST by amrush
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To: FReepaholic

I think this amounts to a private agreement to barter, not illegal. IMO, it’s a clever accomodation for the convenience of peso holders and obviously there are plenty of them in that border area. I’m perfectly sure the vendor is making a nominal amount on the exchange rate, and may even get a better exchange rate if he lets the pesos he accepts pile up into a bigger pile.

If you agreed to take Monopoly money or Britney Spears CDs for a transaction you and I had going, I don’t think that would be illegal.

If you agreed to take $1-denominated US Silver Eagles as payment based upon their face value ($1 each) that would also not be illegal.

As I’ve said, the REAL (IMO) area where this organization has run badly and clearly afoul of many existing laws (mostly securities and banking laws) is issuing the paper money and calling it ANYTHING like “currency” or “redeemable” or “legal tender”. Ouch!


295 posted on 11/15/2007 9:54:59 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This post sold by weight, not volume. Content may have settled during shipment.)
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To: amrush

Thank you for reminding me why I think Libertarians are POS.


296 posted on 11/15/2007 9:55:09 AM PST by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: lormand

Add me, too. These Paul threads are very entertaining! ;-)


297 posted on 11/15/2007 9:55:45 AM PST by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist - G. Carlin)
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To: mvpel

WHY IS IT THAT I CAN’T FIND ANOTHER REPORT OF A RAID DOING A SEARCH OF THE NEWS?


298 posted on 11/15/2007 9:56:08 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Billthedrill
Yep, these are the guys I want in charge of my money, you betcha...

Did you even read the article? The reason they don't have any of that stuff is because the FBI kicked in their door and confiscated it all.

Judging by this thread I guess cheap shots are all anyone has to offer.

299 posted on 11/15/2007 9:56:19 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Old Professer

http://www.usatoday.com/money/2006-09-14-liberty-usat_x.htm


300 posted on 11/15/2007 9:56:57 AM PST by ovrtaxt (You're a destiny that God wrapped a body around.)
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