Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Mexico's leader asks favor of U.S. candidates
Washington Post ^ | Nov 15, 2004 | MANUEL ROIG-FRANZIA

Posted on 11/15/2007 6:40:42 AM PST by Dubya

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-58 last
To: Convert from ECUSA; Travis McGee
El Jefe Calderon has been taking chutzpah lessons from the “palestinians”. Mexico is becoming the “palestine” of the Western Hemisphere; same sense of entitlement, same endless “demands”, same great big pain in everyone’s caboose.

I see the Muslims and their pagan death cult with never-ending wars again the non-Muslim

I see the Aztec death cult of massive human sacrifice. They captured the warriors from other Indian tribes they were in perpetual war with. This was called "flowery wars". Dragged the captives to the top of their pagan sun temple and carved their hearts out. See "Apocalypto" for an approximation of this

The Aztec and indigenous ethos informs the psyche of present day Mexico

 

 

Mestizaje - The Big Lie

What we have been taught
Most people of Mexican descent have been taught from a young age that Mexico and its people are a product of Spanish and Indigenous heritage. Chicanas point to la Malinche as the Mother of Modern Mexicans, but is that really the truth? Are Mexicans and Chicanos the descendents of a country that is really mixed. This page is to dispel this myth of Mexicans being a Mestizo people.

Mexico's people are not mestizo.
It is an indigenous nation. The great majority of its people are of indigenous descent. possibly in the 80% range. However, Mexico is also a country with people of European, African, and Asian descent. At least 2% percent of Mexico's population is of African descent. Mexico is home to many Chinese and Japanese people. Also Mexico received some immigration from Spain and other European countries. However, Mexico and its people are predominately Indigenous and not Mestizo.

What is a Mestizo in Mexico?
I have spent a lifetime researching the racial breakdown of Mexicans. It has been difficult because Mexico does not determine a mestizo person by his racial makeup. In Mexico, a person is only Indigenous if he lives in an Native Community. The moment an Indigenous person leaves their community they are considered Mestizo. Mestizo in Mexico is not your racial makeup but instead it is your culture. If you do not speak a native language and live in an Indigenous community you are not considered Indigenous. This may seem strange to most people and it also seemed strange to me. Mexico takes great pains in avoiding the truth. I went to many seminars regarding the Mexican Identity and I put the question to the experts. I asked them point blank, "We know many Indigenous people died when the spanish came due to war, maltreatment, and disease. We know there were only so many Indigenous people left after a time and at certain times during Mexico's history, but how many Spanish people came to Mexico?" Never did I ever receive an answer to this question. It does not seem like such a hard question. I was trying to determine the number of non Indigenous people that came to Mexico and any given time to get an idea of the Mestizo mix. The experts never had that number. Seems kind of strange, but I finally figured it out. They did not want to tell me that Mexico never had a great number of immigrants from Europe because the Mestizo Mexico was just a lie. So if Mestizaje was a lie then the next thing I had to figure out was why did they lie? What reason would Mexico have to fabricate its identity?

Mestizaje - A Political Strategy?

In the early part of the 20th century, Mexico's most prominent archaeologist, sociologist & advisor to presidents, Manuel Gamio, put forth his doctrine of the mestizaje as a way to unite the country & create a population that was inclusive following the Revolución.

It was a carefully constructed world view that had been on the periphery of Mexican consciousness for centuries, i.e., White Spanish males and brown Indian females producing a mixed race. Gamio oversaw that this world view was institutionalized through the mass education (however insubstantial) & definition of national character of the Mexico.

His game plan was to see that Spanish language & culture & religion & governmental nuance (as filtered through Mexico) would unite the country &, therefore, dissipate the power of the indigenous people who, in sheer numbers, vastly out numbered the white population of the country. The reward for the Indians was that they could now be White Europeans or at least part White Europeans. In Mexico, everyone knows who the least powerful are no matter how the Aztecs are glorified in the popular culture. Gamio's plan was a way of institutionalizing the Revolución without actual handing over power to the vast majority of the people.

What is really interesting is the genetic studies that have been done on populations in Mexico with the result that, overall, at a conservative guess, 80% or more of the population is Native American. When these studies are done in the American Southwest, Texas & California (albeit smaller samples), the gene pool is, again conservatively, still in the range of 65 - 75% Native American gene pool. Given these numbers, it is obvious that Gamio's political concept of the mestizaje was immensely successful.

http://www.azteca.net/aztec/mestizaje.html


41 posted on 11/15/2007 7:57:50 AM PST by dennisw (Islam - "a transnational association of dangerous lunatics")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: dennisw

They did a genetic survey. It is 65% Native American and 35% everything else.


42 posted on 11/15/2007 8:03:30 AM PST by Eternal_Bear
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: dennisw; Travis McGee

Very similar in many respects, it seems.


43 posted on 11/15/2007 8:04:41 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (A voter wavering between wanting radical change and burning the damn place down)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Eternal_Bear
They did a genetic survey. It is 65% Native American and 35% everything else.

Pertaining to who?
All of Mexico's population or is this the average for Mestizos?

Not directly realted but the latest from CIA is--->>>

Ethnic groups:---->>> mestizo (Amerindian-Spanish) 60%, Amerindian or predominantly Amerindian 30%, white 9%, other 1%

44 posted on 11/15/2007 8:10:54 AM PST by dennisw (Islam - "a transnational association of dangerous lunatics")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: dennisw

Fascinating!


45 posted on 11/15/2007 8:42:56 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Dubya
If a bank robber gets away with robbing a bank and then leads a good working productive life it is not a success story. If you put this bank robber on TV and say look at his good productive life he is going to go to jail.
Does this Mexican moron actually have a brain?? If he does he needs to engage it before he opens his mouth.
If an illegal immigrant sneaks into this country, illegally works, and receives money he has committed two crimes. Illegal entry and identity theft. Yep, in this day and age you have to have an identity to work so it has to be fake and or stolen.
No other criminal gets to keep the money they make from committing crimes and the illegals should not either. All funds and proceeds should be forfeit when they are caught. They should be tried for identity theft and do hard time. When their prison term is up the should be instantly deported.
46 posted on 11/15/2007 8:45:29 AM PST by oldenuff2no (My dad ldft for Europe in)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


47 posted on 11/15/2007 9:02:10 AM PST by gubamyster
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Finalapproach29er

Senior Calderon, tomalo por la oreja!!


48 posted on 11/15/2007 9:40:11 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Jeeves; RockinRight

The same CIA that said Iraq’s possession of WMDs was a slam dunk?


49 posted on 11/15/2007 9:53:22 AM PST by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Let's Roll

It doesn’t matter what we think of the CIA - what matters is that America’s elites believe that a new Mexican Revolution is the greatest geopolitical danger we face, and they are conducting foreign and immigration policy accordingly.


50 posted on 11/15/2007 10:03:44 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: DancesWithBolsheviks

What was your *great hope* about?


51 posted on 11/15/2007 10:08:05 AM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: B4Ranch

“What was your *great hope* about?”
That they would work to fight corruption, establish a stronger rule of law and lead Mexico into a more capitalist and prosperous future.


52 posted on 11/15/2007 10:51:00 AM PST by DancesWithBolsheviks (Peace through victory.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: Dubya

Now all I need is that pic as a a bumper sticker with these words on top of it, “My Mexican wife says:”


53 posted on 11/15/2007 10:54:20 AM PST by SwankyC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Dubya

Por favor Cauldron, keep your people home or shut your mouth.


54 posted on 11/15/2007 11:02:43 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All

Mr. Calderon should stay out of American politics, and work to make his nation a place where he can underline the success stories of his citizens that stay home. I regret seeing another Mexican president turn into a hypocritical immigrant pimp.


55 posted on 11/15/2007 12:01:45 PM PST by pallis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: gubamyster; Travis McGee; SeafoodGumbo; dennisw; All

Thanks for the ping; grrrreat cartoon; thanks for the link; very interesting; thanks to all posters on this thread.


56 posted on 11/15/2007 2:07:43 PM PST by PGalt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: dennisw

Blam posted the article within the last few months here. It was the genetic make up of the entire Mexican population. Of course few Mexicans would have those exact ratios. All studies seem to agree that Native American blood is still the predominant strain in Mexico.


57 posted on 11/15/2007 2:10:24 PM PST by Eternal_Bear
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: RockinRight

Right to avoid Mexico going commie, we become Commie instead.

Sounds like the cobbled together idiocy our leaders would come up with.

Meanwhile the Mexican oligarchy continues to count their money, while counting ON the American tax payer to pay for Mexico’s problems.

I have an idea, let’s just bribe the Mexican ruling class to keep these lowlifes ( and more and more of them are) at home. Probably be cheaper and certainly improve our quality of life.


58 posted on 11/16/2007 10:20:50 AM PST by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-58 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson