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Uh-oh, baby boomers begin to retire: ; Congress may fix Social Security using a commission
Encyclopedia.com ^ | October 17, 2007 | Robert Samuelson

Posted on 11/14/2007 8:41:45 AM PST by Clintonfatigued

Almost everyone knows that the next president will have to wrestle with the immense costs of retiring baby boomers.

Come now a small band of Democrats and Republicans who want to do the new president a giant favor. They want to force the new administration to face the problem in early 2009.

Why is this a favor? Because dealing with this issue is so politically unsavory that resolving it quickly would be a godsend. Otherwise, it could haunt the White House for four years.

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KEYWORDS: genx; socialsecurity
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To: Clintonfatigued
giant favor... blah, blah, blah
raise taxes... blah, blah, blah
cut benefits... blah, blah, blah
for the children... blah, blah, blah
third rail... blah, blah, blah

Fearless FRed covered this issue like a blanket some time ago.

21 posted on 11/14/2007 9:23:27 AM PST by upchuck (Hildabeaste as Prez... unimaginable, devastating misery! She will redefine "How bad can it get?")
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To: MikeWUSAF

I’d say us boomers have footed the bill for every liberal program for fifty years and now we’re gonna get the old up yours. So thanks for nothing!


22 posted on 11/14/2007 9:29:19 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: ontap

I got just one thing to say to the left wing lunatics I have watched rob social security the last 40 years to spend like a lunatics on social programs that one can look at today and make a value added decision, that what they have done with the money did not add one damn thing to the overall American dream. Zero then and Zero now.

I kindly send you the New Jersey Salute


23 posted on 11/14/2007 9:36:55 AM PST by Mojohemi
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To: Alberta's Child

While I agree that taxing social security benefits was an indirect reduction in benefits, taxation of benefits will not fix the problem. The rats are committed to continuation of this generational Ponzi scheme. The only way to continue it will be massive taxation. The rats solution is to increase the payroll tax cap. The rats may also propose some benefit reductions with the retirement age.

The other solution is to privatize social security, effectively ending it. The rats adamantly oppose privatization because they realize that social security will become a welfare program. Privatization involves benefit cuts for those who have paid payroll taxes for many years.

A commission is a bad idea. There have been many commissions without any policy changes.


24 posted on 11/14/2007 9:41:39 AM PST by businessprofessor
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To: Mojohemi
I kindly send you the New Jersey Salute

Is that good?

25 posted on 11/14/2007 9:45:00 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Clintonfatigued

We already HAD a commission which included big democrat names.

Guess what, they recommended PRIVATE ACCOUNTS!!!!


26 posted on 11/14/2007 9:48:28 AM PST by bpjam (Harry Reid doesn't even have 32% of my approval)
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To: Clintonfatigued

As my super-fine guvna says:

“I’ll look into that...”

-Deval Patrick


27 posted on 11/14/2007 9:52:39 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (1/27 Wolfhounds...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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To: NeoCaveman
That's true, but some of us are worth it, and we will appreciate it. /S

Tax the productive, transfer all the confiscated wealth to those who didn't save, don't want to work, believe it is their right to collect more than they ever paid in.

You are young and energetic, you'll get over it. Or you will at least get used to it. :)

In God We Trust.....Semper Fi

28 posted on 11/14/2007 9:54:35 AM PST by North Coast Conservative ( Are you a sheepdog, or a sheep?)
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To: businessprofessor

I have enough faith in the abject pragmatism and nihilism of this country to realize that our Social Security “problem” will likely be fixed through two approaches: (1) massive inflation of the U.S. dollar, and (2) euthanizing the elderly.


29 posted on 11/14/2007 10:24:38 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Well I prefer that we slap a 15% surcharge on Money wiring to Mexico. That should help a bit.


30 posted on 11/14/2007 10:40:50 AM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: NeoCaveman

Just like they did ours!


31 posted on 11/14/2007 10:41:12 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: ontap

I’m sorry I thought slavery had been abolished.


32 posted on 11/14/2007 10:43:18 AM PST by NeoCaveman ("Don't doubt me" - The Great El Rushbo)
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To: NeoCaveman

Didn’t call it slavery when we were footing the bill. You’re young, you’ll get over it. Some day you’ll be able to pass the reins to another group of whiners.


33 posted on 11/14/2007 11:02:17 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Alberta's Child

I think that you are saying nothing will be done so our living standard will be greatly eroded. Medicare is in a much worse situation than social security so rationing health care is a very real possibility. An eroded standard of living will lower life expectancies. Unless the rats gain firm control, they will not be able to ram through massive tax increases. Benefit reductions, directly or indirectly, are a certainty. The problem with a massive tax increase is that most of the money will fund other programs just increasing the size of the government even more. If privatization is not on the table, I prefer no action.


34 posted on 11/14/2007 11:08:32 AM PST by businessprofessor
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To: Clintonfatigued

If only they’d retire, and shut the hell up.....


35 posted on 11/14/2007 11:09:07 AM PST by Badeye (That Karma thing keeps coming around, eh Sally? (chuckle))
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To: rhombus
tax Social Security benefits at current income tax rates. This effectively cut Social Security benefits indirectly without really “cutting” them.

Yes. What a novel idea. Let's re-tax dollars collected and redistributed via taxation.

36 posted on 11/14/2007 11:17:16 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (The earth is getting Warmer! It ain't my fault. Let's boycott Mother Nature!)
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To: Tenacious 1

Hey it wasn’t my idea it was Clintons. But the compromise fix will end up being higher taxes in some way, shape or form. The Democrats and AARP will assure it.


37 posted on 11/14/2007 11:22:20 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Clintonfatigued

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(Having Beavis and Butthead moment.)


38 posted on 11/14/2007 11:24:56 AM PST by Son House ($$Proud Member of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: ontap
I’d say us boomers have footed the bill for every liberal program for fifty years and now we’re gonna get the old up yours. So thanks for nothing!

I'd say you boomers are fine and will be funded as promised. The AARP is a huge liberal voting block. It will be your kids that I think will get the old up yours. No politician is going to screw with the largest voting block. They will go after the "children" that have not taken an active interest in politics yet (20s and 30 - somthings).

39 posted on 11/14/2007 11:32:52 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (The earth is getting Warmer! It ain't my fault. Let's boycott Mother Nature!)
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To: MikeWUSAF

Thank you.


40 posted on 11/14/2007 11:35:28 AM PST by 66-442hot (It isn't smart to kill the golden goose........)
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