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Former pilots and officials call for new U.S. UFO probe
yahoo ^ | Nov 12 2007

Posted on 11/13/2007 1:23:06 PM PST by stainlessbanner

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To: stainlessbanner

I can neither confirm nor deny the existence or non-existence of extraterrestrials


41 posted on 11/13/2007 1:50:29 PM PST by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: stainlessbanner
If the government turns its head and refuses to look at something that is obvious to all and is just as strange and mysterious as UFO's, in addition to posing a potential deadly respiratory and immune system threat to certain age groups, how much quicker will it turn its head for something that is not obvious to all.
42 posted on 11/13/2007 1:51:08 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: Red Badger
new Project Blue Book type program

Pointless ... unless the project found proof positive in every report of Greys, LGM, and MIB ... the true believers would dismiss it as a cover-up.

43 posted on 11/13/2007 1:51:13 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: darkwing104

No, these people are really serious. They don’t want to be affiliated with the tin-foil hat crowd..........Gotta go! 4 p.m. saucer is awaiting in the parking lot!............


44 posted on 11/13/2007 1:51:36 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: stainlessbanner
I'm just guessing here - are these people, largely, the same idiots that believe in Global Warming?
45 posted on 11/13/2007 1:52:03 PM PST by Friend_from_the_Frozen_North (If you are, as Rush would say, "A Glittering Jewel of Colossal Ignorance" don't waste my time...)
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To: Crusher138

very interesting speculation....this one has interested me since it made front page USA Today headlines, as I recall.


46 posted on 11/13/2007 1:52:11 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Friend_from_the_Frozen_North

No, that is a slightly different subset of idiots.


47 posted on 11/13/2007 1:52:58 PM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: ArrogantBustard

They really want to focus on craft sightings and aerial phenomena.............


48 posted on 11/13/2007 1:53:02 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

What’s the best way to avoid being kidnapped by alien beings in a spaceship?

Don’t get drunk in the woods with a bunch of rednecks!...........
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ROTFLMPO!!!


49 posted on 11/13/2007 1:53:27 PM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Red Badger
....and Gulf Breeze is the new UFO Mecca...

Last UFO they showed from Gulf Breeze was a Navy SH-60 dropping off SEALs on a night training mission. The upper beacon lights were reflecting off of the blades. All other warning lights were left off so as not to blind the divers. The additional green lights were Cyno sticks worn on the SEALS legs. I can't find the video on youtube at this time.


50 posted on 11/13/2007 1:54:21 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: stainlessbanner
Unless you are a UFO cultist nutcase, seeing a UFO is not a matter of choice and ought not be ridiculed. If you are interested in a scientific analysis of UFO's, start with Jacques Vallee:

Challenge to Science: The UFO Enigma

Anatomy of a phenomenon: The detailed and unbiased report of UFOs

Once you started reading some of the UFO sightings, landings and contact cases and the evidence in support, you realize that this isn't a case of seeing the moon and thinking it's a UFO. Vallee also comes to the conclusion that UFO's are somehow tied to Earth and aren't a n inter-planetary phenomenon. He things at least some are a kind of broadcast holograph with mass. The flight characteristics of some UFO's are not aeronautical. So in a sense, they are not "flying".

Skeptics can make all the jokes they want about little green men from Mars, but once you look into the reality of UFO's, you realize, it is far bigger and stranger than spaceships.

There have been proven physical effects on the ground, on plants, on electronic sensors and on people. So, denying that something is going on, is not a scientific point of view. Read Vallee and come back and say there is nothing to UFOs.

51 posted on 11/13/2007 1:56:28 PM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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To: Red Badger
The second sighting occurred in 1974 while Reagan was still Governor. One week after the sighting, Reagan related the story to Norman C. Millar, then Washington Bureau chief for the Wall Street Journal, later the editor of the Los Angeles Times. Reagan told Millar:

"I was in a plane last week when I looked out the window and saw this white light. It was zigzagging around. I went up to the pilot and said, ‘Have you seen anything like that before?’ He was shocked and said, ‘Nope.’ And I said to him: ‘Let’s follow it!’

We followed it for several minutes. It was a bright white light. We followed it to Bakersfield, and all of a sudden to our utter amazement it went straight up into the heavens. When we got off the plane, I told Nancy all about it.’

The pilot of Governor Reagan plane was Bill Paynter, and he backed up Reagan’s version of the incident with the UFO.

I was the pilot of the plane when we saw the UFO. Also, on board were Governor Reagan and a couple of his security people. We were flying a Cessna Citation. It was maybe nine or ten o’clock at night. We were near Bakersfield when Governor Reagan and the others called my attention to a big light flying a bit behind the plane.

It appeared to be several hundred yards away. It was a fairly steady light until it began to accelerate, then it appeared to elongate. The light took off. It went up at a 45-degree angle - at a high rate of speed. Everyone on the plane was surprised.

Governor Reagan expressed amazement. I told the others I didn’t know what it was. The UFO went from a normal cruise speed to a fantastic speed instantly.

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I can't validate the source, but this seems to be widely acknowledge, listing names etc. In fact, I think Reagan saw objects on two occasions.

Could be all BS....I don't have time to do the research.

52 posted on 11/13/2007 1:57:52 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: RightWhale
Wasn't that the Queen of Jordan's name, Nouri?
53 posted on 11/13/2007 1:58:26 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Jabba the Nutt

An alien.

54 posted on 11/13/2007 1:58:36 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Judy Ruliani - Could our next president be a drag....queen?)
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To: dragonblustar
I saw that on the history channel. Rehashed stuff. I am not belitting UFO belivers but I haven't seen one yet that I haven't figured it out or has been debunked. I'll know it when I see it. Just my years of being an analyst...


55 posted on 11/13/2007 1:58:40 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Red Badger

There’s no gain for the government to “come clean” so to speak.

If there are more sightings of UFO’s, there’s enough momentum in the MSM to label those who’ve seen one as kooks. Plus the fact that after a few years people who have seen one will have a natural tendency to doubt what they’ve seen.

I guess for those who do believe they’ll just have to wait and hope one lands right on the White House lawn in full daylight because that’s the only way the MSM and others will take a look at this phenomenon.


56 posted on 11/13/2007 1:58:46 PM PST by dragonblustar (Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
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57 posted on 11/13/2007 2:00:22 PM PST by evets (beer)
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To: isthisnickcool
That's a new class of alien ...

You've, of course, heard of MIB: Men in Black.

That's a MFB: Men Formerly Black.

58 posted on 11/13/2007 2:00:44 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Blue Highway

Maybe so. Noori is a common family name over there, which is where George’s family line is from.


59 posted on 11/13/2007 2:01:36 PM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: Eastbound
Are you talking about the unidentified illegals from Mexico? If the govt. isn’t doing much to address this issue, never mind even acknowledge their existence, how can they thwart the unknown thread of aliens from outer space?
60 posted on 11/13/2007 2:02:16 PM PST by Blue Highway
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