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To: Reagan Man

Here’s a guy who said on Meet the Press that he was against a constitutional amendment banning abortion. Go figure!


14 posted on 11/13/2007 8:39:47 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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16 posted on 11/13/2007 8:42:46 AM PST by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

A constitutional amendment banning abortion is not necessary. And it’s a waste of time and energy, because getting it passed would consume enormous amounts of both, and in the end it would probably fail.

The ERA failed, and that had a LOT of support in its day.

A constitutional amendment is not necessary, because there IS no constitutional right to an abortion. The answer to the liberal judges who have imposed their own selfish whims on the people in the guise of constitutional interpretation is not to pass a new constitutional amendment every time they make a vile decision. There’s no way you could keep up with them. It is to work on the culture, the voters, and the politicians until they are forced to nominate and confirm decent, honest judges and throw out that bogus piece of work, Roe v. Wade.

This whole constitutional amendment business is a red herring, pushed by people who want to look good but who know that it won’t pass.


25 posted on 11/13/2007 8:46:42 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Yup. Because a forthright supporter of a human life amendment, is taking a position that is too extreme to win in the general (sorry, but even with the moderately pro-life majority in the electorate it’s still true), and irrelevant to the powers of the POTUS who has nothing to do with the amendment process, while Thompson’s federalist approach will advance the cause of defending human life while attracting moderates, and is implementable through the Presidency through the appointment of judges to SCOTUS. NRL, unlike some pro-lifers, knows that politics is the art of the possible.


93 posted on 11/13/2007 9:25:47 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Here’s a guy who said on Meet the Press that he was against a constitutional amendment banning abortion. Go figure!

Really. I guess having a president in the WH who supports the stated goal of the organization -- banning abortion -- is no longer necessary. Interesting. Seems like a step backwards.

108 posted on 11/13/2007 9:40:04 AM PST by redgirlinabluestate (Common sense conservatives UNITED behind Mitt 2 defeat Rudy and then Hillary)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Here’s a guy who said on Meet the Press that he was against a constitutional amendment banning abortion. Go figure!

He's against depending on the HLA simply because he knows it won't get passed, so of what use is it? Ad Fred said this week, if we couldn't get the HLA passed when the Republicans were in the majority in BOTH the House and Senate AND had the White House, it isn't going to happen.

Instead of continuing to be purists about it and allowing babies to continue to die, why not try Fred's idea? It is imminently more DO-able, and has the added feature of making people in the States actually THINK about the issue, since they will be casting direct votes on it, or will have their local representatives doing it for them. They haven't had to truly consider it for almost 35 years since the matter was 'settled' with Roe v Wade. Since then, any state that has tried to implement restrictions has seen them shot down under the auspices of the Roe precedent.

178 posted on 11/13/2007 11:06:06 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

“Here’s a guy who said on Meet the Press that he was against a constitutional amendment banning abortion. Go figure!”

Fred is a Federalist, and murder is part of the State’s portfolio of powers. There is no federal law against murder, and so the Supreme Court’s ruling on Roe vs. Wade was an example of a Federal branch exceeding its powers.
A constitutional amendment banning abortion is the nuclear option, and is impossible to achieve under the present political conditions. But because it’s simple and easy to see it will work, the simple minded among us have focused on it to the exclusion of any other options, which might actually work.
Millions are dying every year and we are morally obligated to save as many as we can. By failing to recognize the reality of the situation and changing our strategy, we become complicit in their deaths. If we start small, at the state and local level, as the anti-smoking campaign did, we can save thousands of lives NOW.
Changes to the Supreme Court plus State and Local abortion laws challenged all the way to the Supreme Court, could eventually cause the over ruling of Roe vs. Wade based on Federalist principles.
Fred is right, and is leading the way, all we must do is follow.


233 posted on 11/13/2007 5:59:19 PM PST by Eagle74 (From time to time the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots)
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