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UFO sightings are no laughing matter, group says
afp ^ | 11/12/07 | afp

Posted on 11/12/2007 3:53:44 PM PST by mdittmar

UFOs may be fodder for comedians and science fiction but there was no joking Monday when a group of pilots and officials demanded the US government reopen an investigation into unidentified flying objects.

The 19 former pilots and government officials, who say they have seen UFOs themselves or been involved in probes of strange flying objects, told reporters their questions can no longer be dismissed more than 30 years after the US case was closed.

"We want the US government to stop perpetuating the myth that all UFOs can be explained away in down-to-earth, conventional terms," said Fife Symington, former governor of Arizona and air force pilot who says he saw a UFO himself in 1997.

"Instead our country needs to reopen its official investigation that it shut down in 1969," Symington told a news conference.

Symington read an appeal on behalf of the group of who came to Washington to recount their sightings of UFOs.

"We believe that for reasons of both national security and flight safety, every country should make an effort to identify any object in its airspace," the statement said.

The group included a retired pilot from Air France who said he saw an enormous flying disc during a flight from Nice to London in 1994, an Iranian pilot who tried in vain to fire on a UFO in 1976 and a former US official from the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) who claims a probe into a UFO seen over Alaska in 1987 was squelched.

"'Who believes in UFOs?' is the kind of attitude of the FAA all the time," Symington said.

"However, when I asked the CIA person: 'What do you think it was,' he responded 'a UFO.'"

When Symington suggested the government tell Americans about a UFO, the CIA official allegedly told him: "'No way, if we were to tell the American public there are UFOs they would panic.'"

The subject of UFOs came up in a recent debate among presidential candidates, with Democrat Dennis Kucinich saying he saw a UFO.

Skeptics say UFO sightings are merely aircraft or meteors re-entering the Earth's atmosphere.


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To: Quix

Some UFO’s are secret military technology

Some are regular astronomical objects (planets, stars)

Some are weather balloons, regular aircraft, other explainable objects.

Some are hoaxes done by those who seek fame and attention.

Some are visits from ‘heavenly hosts’

Some are ethereal type creatures that live in a special layer of our atmosphere. A layer that is endemic to us staying alive and can be used to send radio signals around the Earth, and can be tapped for it’s energy potentials.

Aliens? Depends on what you mean by the word. Many things are alien to us, but not to nature, not to the universe of God. (whatever one chooses God to mean).

LIFE, is it ‘out there’?

When others ask, I point to the big yellow star that appears in our sky, and I say, SEE THAT? That’s life.

Without it, there would be no life on the EARTH.
At night, those dots of light we call stars. Every one of them is LIFE. They are LIFE, they are the source of LIFE.

Technology has been held up (as far as release to the general public) for almost 100 years, mainly due to the immaturity of our civilization.

We could have anti-grav jet cars, just like the Jetsons, but we can’t drive around on the two-dimensional highway system and operate a cellphone without backing up traffic or crashing into someone.

We could colonize other planets, and moons, but we would turn them into the same kind of hellholes we have here on Earth.

When a couple has a child, they usually put latches on kitchen cabinets, safety plugs into electrical outlets, lock up any weapons, and make sure at least one adult stays in visual range of the baby.

We ‘are’ that baby.


(something I like to keep in mind)

Whether Day or Night, the Stars shine no less brightly.


461 posted on 12/08/2007 10:16:48 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (-Not Afraid of the truth, and the whole truth - Are you?)
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To: mdittmar

Tom Cruise must be thrilled.


462 posted on 12/08/2007 10:22:51 PM PST by I'm ALL Right! (THOMPSON '08)
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To: UCANSEE2

Good points.

Thanks.


463 posted on 12/08/2007 10:24:59 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Do Be
I couldn't find that book so I bought this one.


464 posted on 12/08/2007 10:47:59 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: UCANSEE2; All; Las Vegas Dave; SunkenCiv

Tonight’s gleanings from ATS:

Vast structure just found in king crater on the moon!

ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread320043/pg1

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK:

http://keithlaney.net/ApolloOrbitalimages/AS10/AS10-30-4349.jpg

I’m still disappointed in such pics . . . I think there’s air brushing out going on and has been for decades. But what’s there remains to be seen, imho.

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And this hole that opened up on earth:

http://www.iirobotics.com/bot-news/general/amazing-pics-of-a-hole-that-opened-up-the-earth-20070528928/

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33 year old dead alien body found in Peru.

ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread319904/pg1

here’s a UTUBE LINK THAT’S MUCH EASIER AND VERY FASCINATING

http://youtube.com/watch?v=57nfzXgYKSM

VIDEO LINK:

http://www.stage6.com/UFO-CHANNEL2-—CANAL-OVNI2/video/1916768/Alien_body_kept_in_Peru_for_33_years

I have been to the above link but I still haven’t figured out how to view the video. Frustrating. Please let me know if you figure it out.

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RECENT ARGENTINE CE3 ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread319995/pg1

SPANISH LINK/DOC/PAGE:

http://www.lavozdelpueblo.com.ar/diario/2007-11-10/La_Region/24309.htm

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SHORT LIST OF US MIND CONTROL PROJECTS: ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread9381/pg1

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“OUR GOVERNMENT AND THE UN CONSIDER OUR CONSTITUTION TERRORIST LITERATURE?” ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread320046/pg1

ORIGINAL YAHOO VIDEO LINK:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread320046/pg1

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DAT’S ALL FOLKS.


465 posted on 12/09/2007 6:02:47 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

I would appreciate you pinging me, as you have, on the links you are providing.

Some of them are hoaxes, some funny.

But some of them deserve close inspection, and provoke much thought (and much controversy).

I don’t mind sifting the wheat from the chaff.

Thanks....and Merry Christmas.


466 posted on 12/09/2007 8:40:31 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (-Not Afraid of the truth, and the whole truth - Are you?)
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To: Quix

“Sometimes the counterfeit can be quite close to the real,”

Sometimes the real is mistaken for counterfeit.


467 posted on 12/09/2007 8:42:49 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (-Not Afraid of the truth, and the whole truth - Are you?)
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To: WorkingClassFilth; All

Tonight’s gleanings from ATS:

HACKING THE MIND: INTRUSIVE BRAIN SURVEILANCE TECHNOLOGY.

ATS THREAD HERE:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread321148/pg1

links to sources:

Warning I didn’t include the angelfire link. popup add bothered me.

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=24495

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_control

A SHORT LIST OF MIND CONTROL PROJECTS:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread9381/pg1

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WHY DISCLOSURE WILL NEVER HAPPEN ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread321193/pg1

Qx disagrees . . . we’ll see.

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[The ‘Company’s] TORTURE JET WRECKS WITH 4 TONS OF COCAINE: ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread320942/pg1

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“DOCUMENTARIES” OF THE FUTURE 3 VIDEOS GOOGLE LONGISH VIDS:

ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread320606/pg1

LINK ONE THE BODY:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1537644238897941086

II: THE CITY:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6979560348655713314

III: THE WORLD

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7582986795752940587

50 YEARS INTO THE FUTURE . . .

Actually, I think God has a different vision. We shall see.

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ELITISTS [SUPPOSEDLY] CONSIDER ASSASSINATION OF RP. ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread321023/pg1

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GOOGLE DEBUTS KNOWLEDGE PROJECT: ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread321120/pg1

And . . . how NWO values censored will such knowlege be! LOL.

Sigh.

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INTERSTELLER CASE FILES [movie pulled?] ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread321150/pg1

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THE MILITARY AND THE PARANORMAL ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread320281/pg1

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REPROCUSSIONS OF MY ABDUCTION/CONTACT EXPERIENCES ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread320110/pg1

[an interesting narrative]

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ANOTHER ROSWELL? ATS thread, utube vid link

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread321161/pg1

utube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjHjFejUS2w&feature=related

in Spanish, I think or maybe just Spanish subtitles

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dats all folks


468 posted on 12/16/2007 12:06:39 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: mdittmar; Las Vegas Dave; SunkenCiv; All

TONIGHT’S GLEANINGS FROM ATS:

RECOVERED PIECE OF UFO: IRREFUTABLE EVIEDNCE OF ALIEN PRESENCE?

ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread320563/pg1

PHOTOS IN THREAD WITH excerpts re scientific analysis demonstrating not of this earth properties . . .

SOURCE LINKS:

1. [central clickable items on this page]:

http://www.ufohardevidence.com/home.html

2. Might have to search around on this link:

http://ufoevidence.conforums.com/index.cgi

ARMY DOC COLLECTION AT BLACKVAULT.COM corroborating aspects of the piece/story

http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/army/armyufo0.htm

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NEW DISCOVERIES CONFIRMING ELECTRIC SUN THEORIES

ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread321444/pg1

“The satellites have found evidence for magnetic ropes connecting Earth’s upper atmosphere directly to the Sun,” says Dave Sibeck, project scientist for the mission at the Goddard Space Flight Center. “We believe that solar wind particles flow in along these ropes, providing energy for geomagnetic storms and auroras.”

A “magnetic rope” is a twisted bundle of magnetic fields organized much like the twisted hemp of a mariner’s rope. Spacecraft have detected hints of these ropes before, but a single spacecraft is insufficient to map their 3D structure. THEMIS’s five satellites were able to perform the feat.

EXTERNAL LINK:

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/11dec_themis.htm

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DEATH RAY REPLACED BY “VOICE OF GOD” [SKY BASED FOCUSED AUDIO SYSTEM]

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread321574/pg1

SOURCE:

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htweap/articles/20071217.aspx

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NWO COMIC SITE AS REFED ON ATS:

http://www.thirdarmy.net/

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SECRETS THEY KEEP: ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread320969/pg1

GEORGIA GUIDESTONES, NWO ETC.

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DON’T REMEMBER if I did this one or not:

INTERSTELLER CASE FILES . . . ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread321150/pg1

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MERK [REPORTEDLY] ADMITS INJECTING CANCER . . .

ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread321272/pg1

SOURCE:

LIVELEAK VIDEO:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=327_1195303011

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RUSSIA DEPLOYS ICBMS TO IRAN:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread321581/pg1

UTOH

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COMPILATION OF EVIDENCE FOR EBE’s

[Extraterrestrial Biological Entities]

ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread320015/pg1

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Wierd Creature [lizard human] attacking farmers in South Africa.

ATS THREAD

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread182367/pg1

spelling is horrid maybe English is not native language . . .

Interesting tale, anyway

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NATIVE AMERICAN’S SLANT ON ALIENS 2012 ORIGINS ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread321289/pg1

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OBJECT REMOVED FROM ME ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread321371/pg1

FIRST IMAGE:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc155/jess434/jessimplant1.jpg

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QUESTIONS FOR JOHN LEAR . . . son of creator of the Lear Jet.

ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread215767/pg1

Lear responds in the thread.

He has some fantastical convictions from a myriad of sources about life on the moon, Mars, Venus . . .

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NEW AGE RELIGION OF THE NWO

ATS thread

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread308800/pg1

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EVIDENCE MOUNTS FOR ELECTROMAGNETIC EARTHQUAKE PRECURSSOR

ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread321554/pg1

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100% FLAWLESS PROOF OF GOD

ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread320707/pg1

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COMA BREAKGHROUGH—VEGETABLES ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread321273/pg1

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B-52 NUKES WERE HEADED FOR IRAN—AIRFORCE REFUSED

ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread305388/pg1

SOURCE LINK broken, it seems . . . excerpt in the thread

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dat’s all folks.


469 posted on 12/17/2007 8:52:51 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

this is offal:

B-52 NUKES WERE HEADED FOR IRAN—AIRFORCE REFUSED

ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread305388/pg1

SOURCE LINK broken, it seems . . . excerpt in the thread

October 20, 2007 — Another “Vichy Democrat” — Ellen Tauscher — supports USAF report on B-52
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/articles/20071020_1

Sept. 6, 2007
Questions remain over nuclear-armed B-52 over Midwest
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/articles/20070906
The reported story about a “loss” of 6 nuclear cruise missiles would represent a breakdown in nuclear weapons command and control.

Sept. 12, 2007
Major hole in government’s explanation of nuclear-armed B-52
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/articles/20070912_1
Nuclear-armed advanced cruise missiles would not have been sent to Louisiana for decommissioning

Sept. 24, 2007
SPECIAL REPORT
“Lost” B-52 nuke cruise missiles were on way to Middle East for attack on Iran
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/articles/20070923
Labor Day weekend incident was a revolt by US Air Force and other US intelligence agencies against Bush-Cheney plans for pre-emptive nuclear and conventional strike on Iran.

Sept. 27, 2007
Bush administration seeking to tamp down interest in B-52 incident
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/articles/20070927_1


470 posted on 12/17/2007 9:05:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, December 10, 2007____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

REal comforting, hunh! NOT!

Sheesh. What’s the world coming to?

Oh, Right . . . Armageddon.

THEN PERFECT PEACE RAN BY THE PRINCE OF PEACE.

i can look forward to THAT!


471 posted on 12/17/2007 9:09:13 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: mdittmar; All; Las Vegas Dave; SunkenCiv; WorkingClassFilth
ALL
WHO ARE INTERESTED
IN
NWO
GLOBALISM
STUFF

I have an ATS THREAD LINK that I consider more than a little sensitive but would like to share by FREEPMAIL.

It is kind of a warning and a call to patriotism . . . particularly for a few classes of patriots we all value so much.

IF you have an interest in the link, PLEASE, let me know by FREEPMAIL. I'll respond periodically as a cluster of screennames collect. THX.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled FREEPING. Your monitor shoudl return to normal shortly.

472 posted on 12/18/2007 8:33:22 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: SunkenCiv; Las Vegas Dave; All

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317266,00.html

excerpt:

TOKYO — Japan’s air force has never spotted a UFO, but the country’s top government spokesman said Tuesday he “definitely” believes they exist.

Chief Cabinet Secretary Nobutaka Machimura was speaking to reporters in response to demands lodged by an opposition lawmaker for an inquiry into “frequent reports of UFO sightings.”

The government said in an official reply that it had “not confirmed sightings of unidentified flying objects believed to be from outer space.”

Still, “I definitely believe they exist,” Machimura said as reporters erupted in laughter.


473 posted on 12/18/2007 9:18:53 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
The government said in an official reply that it had "not confirmed sightings of unidentified flying objects believed to be from outer space."
Wow, that's an empty denial, eh? "We haven't confirmed the sightings, like we're not confirming them right now." ;'D Gov't work, it's what's for dinner...
474 posted on 12/18/2007 9:28:11 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, December 10, 2007____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

I think Japan’s lying about the Airforce not seeing UFO’s.

Certainly the JAL cargo liner in Nov what was it 1987? saw an aircraft carrier sized UFO play cat and mouse with it for more than 40 minutes and that was confirmed by radar stuff from Anchorage that the local head of the FAA kept the radar tapes of.

And now this . . .

FOOD STOCKS being dramatically drawn down for various reasons . . .

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread321703/pg1


475 posted on 12/18/2007 10:48:18 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: rideharddiefast

Haven’t astronauts reported unidentified flying objects? Are we here to ridicule them or just political candidates?


476 posted on 12/18/2007 10:49:56 AM PST by purpleraine
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To: Quix

All those are from the same nutcase author, and there’s nothing to any of it, any more than there is anything to the 9/11 CIA / Bilderberger conspiracy and/or 9/11 hoax garbage.


477 posted on 12/18/2007 11:38:05 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, December 10, 2007____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: purpleraine
Haven’t astronauts reported unidentified flying objects? Are we here to ridicule them or just political candidates?

I like to ridicule all tin foil hatters.
478 posted on 12/18/2007 1:19:55 PM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: rideharddiefast

I don’t remember anyone ridiculing any astronauts here, except for the wacky woman who chased her man.


479 posted on 12/18/2007 1:28:10 PM PST by purpleraine
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To: purpleraine; All; Las Vegas Dave

Here’s a bunch of interesting links.

The first one is a doozy with a lot of above average stuff on Nazy technological progress during the war and their reported collaborations with ET’s way back then.

http://www.stevequayle.com/High.Jump/Vril.and.Andromeda.html

http://www.naziufos.com/

http://www.eyepod.org/Nazi-Disc-Video.html

http://www.burlingtonnews.net/ufonazi.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpCGemQ4ck0


480 posted on 12/18/2007 8:52:05 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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