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Discord roils L.A. Unified parent panel
Los Angeles Times ^ | November 10, 2007 | Howard Blume

Posted on 11/11/2007 10:29:38 PM PST by ruination

Acrimony with racial overtones has plagued the advisory council. The key issue: whether meetings in Spanish should be allowed.

For months, parents on a Los Angeles Unified School District advisory council have disagreed over whether their meetings should be conducted in Spanish or English. Such arguments became so abusive that district officials canceled meetings for two months and brought in dispute-resolution specialists and mental-health counselors.

But Friday morning's gathering of the District Advisory Council proved dysfunctional in any language.

By one vote, parents censured their own chairman for alleged bad behavior, leading to a walkout of most Spanish-speakers. The rebuked chairman, Roberto Fonseca, followed them out of the room. Most voting for the censure were African American, adding racial overtones to the back-and-forth hectoring.

Friday's dispute, at the district's downtown Parent Community Services Branch, was the latest in a year of acrimony at the council, which was elected by parents at schools throughout the district. They offer advice on -- and oversight of -- the expenditure of $385 million on federally funded programs for students from poor families.

The goings-on raise another round of questions about parent participation in the nation's second-largest school system, which has been repeatedly criticized by auditors for inconsistent and ineffective parent involvement and outreach. Critics say the district rarely seeks true parental input and instead uses parents to rubber-stamp budgets and programs. District officials insist they are determined to change this perception and are making progress.

Friday's chaos had been building since February, when Fonseca, who is bilingual, started to give his chairman's report in Spanish. Some in the audience objected; arguments and recriminations ensued, and school police rushed over amid concerns that a fistfight would break out, witnesses said.

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1 posted on 11/11/2007 10:29:39 PM PST by ruination
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To: ruination

Doesn’t matter if they do it in English, Spanish, both, or neither.. L.A. Unified can’t be fixed by anyone they have in there now..Public Schools are just sinkholes for public dollars and dropout factories.


2 posted on 11/11/2007 10:33:53 PM PST by Awestruck (All the usual suspects)
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To: ruination

Teach them sign language.

I can think of one gesture they’d understand already!

See how easy that was??


3 posted on 11/11/2007 10:34:49 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: ruination

Latest despatch from the brown-on-black wars.

So it seems Lations are outnumbering the Blacks in the school district and the blacks (unlike us cringing whiteys) do not feel the need to be polite about it (or anything, for that matter).

And now they’re fighting over scraps of racial swag like two dogs over a bone.

You will have to forgive me if I sound amused. I can’t help it, I’m half Ice Devil. I’ll hold a tearful interview as soon as Larry King will clear some time for me.


4 posted on 11/11/2007 10:38:02 PM PST by sinanju
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To: ruination

They sneak in here in the trunks of cars and start dictating to the very Americans who are forced to support them and whose wages are suppressed by them.

Que heavos

Regards


5 posted on 11/11/2007 10:40:24 PM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: ruination
Some meetings consist entirely of Spanish-speakers in a district where more than 266,000 students (and probably many more parents) are English-learners out of a student population of about 694,000.

I believe this is what is commonly refered to as assimilation.  Glad to see it's working.  As if...

Friday's dispute, at the district's downtown Parent Community Services Branch, was the latest in a year of acrimony at the council, which was elected by parents at schools throughout the district. They offer advice on -- and oversight of -- the expenditure of $385 million on federally funded programs for students from poor families.

These are federally funded programs on top of the regular cost of schooling these chidlren.  Isn't that special.

Friday's chaos had been building since February, when Fonseca, who is bilingual, started to give his chairman's report in Spanish.

No problem.  This is essentially Mexican soil anyway.

6 posted on 11/11/2007 10:40:26 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Mrs Crinton have Pay Feava. There she go now. "Ah Hsu Ahhh Hsu Ah Hsu!" Crintons worth every penny.)
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To: ruination; gubamyster; SwinneySwitch; Czar; nicmarlo; hedgetrimmer; Reaganwuzthebest

Read this one. It looks like English, assimulation and education are out of the picture.


7 posted on 11/11/2007 10:52:58 PM PST by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: ruination

LMAO!!!
These people have absolutely no concept of the meaning of the word “hopeless”.
I mean, this dispute amounts to trying to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic AFTER it already sank.


8 posted on 11/11/2007 11:03:45 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: ruination
I urge everyone to go to the link and read the whole thing. It is a veritable gold mine of quotable nuggets.
Absolutely unbelievable!
9 posted on 11/11/2007 11:10:57 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: ruination

“Some observers have described the battle over language as a stand-in for a larger dispute. Federal Title 1 funding started during the civil rights era largely as a mechanism to help impoverished blacks who occupied vast swaths of South Los Angeles. The federal money has yet to eliminate low-academic achievement among African Americans.

But Latinos now have larger numbers in many formerly black-majority schools. And Latino parents are not content to oversee only those funds set aside for English-learners — these are generally much smaller pots of money than the federal poverty-relief dollars.”

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Sad article on fighting over taxpayer money. Not one mention of students in the whole article.

Take away the money. See how many members quit/walk out then. Take away the money and let the parents focus on improving the education for the students.


10 posted on 11/11/2007 11:11:15 PM PST by crazyshrink (Being uninformed is one thing, choosing ignorance is a whole different problem.)
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To: ruination

Things got so bad in Dallas at one point between the Blacks and Mexicans that they had to bring in a white male to run the district.


11 posted on 11/12/2007 2:44:04 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Awestruck

I think we can pretty much predict that the LA school system will be the first to completely fail because of parent-teacher relations. By the time that Latinos figure out the racial game...the black majority will turn into a minority....and even the remaining whites will question how anything can function in this “multi’cultural” world.

My guess is that we have three to four years at best...before total failure. Even the Fed’s coming into that region...won’t be able to stop the mess.


12 posted on 11/12/2007 2:49:11 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: ruination

Like it or not, these are the birth pangs of civil violence which we witness.


13 posted on 11/12/2007 2:59:06 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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Wait a minute, Latinos have figured out the racial game (see L.A. mayor Villaraigosa and CA Assembly Speaker Nunez for prime examples). That phase is over. Next up is how the entire country doesn't descend into the same multicultural cluster****.
14 posted on 11/12/2007 3:45:02 AM PST by ruination
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CWII ping, for the story content combined with AmericanInTokyo’s comment.


15 posted on 11/12/2007 3:50:54 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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16 posted on 11/12/2007 4:02:04 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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17 posted on 11/12/2007 4:26:09 AM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: ruination
You had best learn spanish - bow to your new masters.

And make sure that you embrace homosexuality in all of its forms, keep sending your children to public indoctrination systems, and keep aborting your unborn descendants.
- Thats okay, but you must learn spanish to properly obey your new masters until you are extinct.

Its happening right now. - have fun

18 posted on 11/12/2007 4:37:35 AM PST by bill1952 ("all that we do is done with an eye towards something else." - Aristotle)
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Thanks for the ping.


19 posted on 11/12/2007 4:40:25 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen
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To: Awestruck
The language STILL Matters.


20 posted on 11/12/2007 5:45:11 AM PST by bannie
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