America's (10) Most Murderous Cities

Forbes ^ | 8 November 2007 | David M. Ewalt

[Bernard]

Same question - is the 280,000 based on some official census of people who actually live there, or some estimate from an interested party?

[Mila]

“Same question - is the 280,000 based on some official census of people who actually live there, or some estimate from an interested party?”

This article puts the population at 277,000 at the time of the second anniversary-August 29,2007. I rounded it up.

http://www.theconservativevoice.com/ap/article.html?mi=D8RASVDG0&apc=9009

[Bernard]

Thanks. So if "The city's population has reached an estimated 277,000" it must have been much lower right after Katrina. So, the murder rate being in the top 10 must have made the interim even much more difficult.

[bvw]

Murder Rates
By decade, typical murders per 100,000 people, US except as noted

1340: 110 (Oxford, England)
1550: 47 (Amsterdam)
1830:  1 (Amsterdam)
1900:  1
1910:  5
1920:  7
1930:  9
1940:  7
1950:  5
1960:  4
1970:  8
1980: 10
1990:  9
2000:  6
2006:  4

1900-2000 data derived from chart at http://www.jrsa.org/programs/Historical.pdf
Amsterdam numbers from http://www.iht.com/articles/1994/10/24/topics_51.php
Oxford 1340 from http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C03E2D6163FF930A15753C1A962958260

[poinq]

The leading indicator of crime in big cities is a black mayor. Its not that blacks can’t stop murder. Its more that they pander to a section of the city where murder is most common. Politicians that pander to black votes also lower the police effectiveness. While Detroit has had white mayors recently there was a thirty year period of black pandering which destroyed the police, cause crime to rise and inevitably produced severe white flight to safety.

[Westlander]

Based on per capita. Get some Kleenex.

[grellis]

If you would like to be added or dropped from the Michigan ping list, please freepmail me.

My goodness, what is there to say, really...

[Elsiejay]

There is much of value in your observation, something we should think about, deeply.

[Westlander]

You were only born in Detroit. I had to survive there for 35 years.

[NCC-1701]

I am surprised, no, shocked to see that Memphis, Tn didn’t make the list. A month or two ago, it was the #1 city for murders. We must be losing our touch. If so, that’s nice to know.

[Westlander]

With Detroiters ‘visiting’ the suburbs, I’ve met many new friends. Ruger, Remington, Rossi, and their cousin - H&K.

[Hot Tabasco]

You were only born in Detroit. I had to survive there for 35 years.

I worked at Conner/Charlevoix from 2/72 till 9/97 then again from 7/06 till 12/06.........Don't preach

[grellis]

During that serial killer's spree here in Lansing this past summer, FIVE of my lady neighbors got licensed. They all went with the same cal (.32) but different makers.

I stuck with my usual (really big dog) but did pick up some pepper spray.

[Westlander]

.32 Mag? Even if not so, better than nothing. Being a wheelgun fan, I went with a 6 shot .357 Mag, went to MagNaPort in Mt. Clemens had the 2” barrel ported, and keep Federal 110 grain .38 Special Hydrashocks in it. Recoil/flip is like a .32. While I was at Magnaport, a guide from Alaska was there having 1/2 a dozen rifle barrels ported. .458 Lott’s and .416 Rigby’s. Gee, wonder why he wanted them ported?

[Westlander]

No preaching intended. There’s a difference between working there and living there. I remember the tanks rolling down my street in 1967 and the whole family sleeping in the basement.

[Dad yer funny]

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[ByDesign]

“We have maybe upwards of 38.0M illegals now - how does that number fit into the mix? If the number is too high a percentage for that city and might reflect poorly, does somebody say, “Oh yeah, we have to increase the population by X which is close to the number of illegals ‘they’ say we have” so that drives the % of crimes down??”

I would suspect a lot of crime in the illegal neighborhoods is unreported, but bodies are hard to ignore.

While murder is a good thing to track, it’s not representative of how safe areas are - just because nobody was murdered in my immediate neighborhood in Oakland does not make the burglary, muggings, car thefts, car break ins, and vandalism easier to live with - and we had a LOT of that.

Oakland and Berkeley both, I had my car broken into, and in both cities, a cop never showed up, I was sent a form to fill out for insurance.

In Oakland, unless someone is actively attacking you, in your home, or you are dead, you are truly on your own - and the criminals know it.

[eleni121]

Democraps rule thes cities...Republicans don’t even run run candidates there.

Dems- or should I say—commissars - get elected with 2-5% of the voters coming out...

[PGalt]

Sheesh, Detroit. I drove down Grand River Ave. from the suburbs to go to Motor City Casino last night. Very sad to see. The place looked much better 40 years ago when the riots were taking place. Forty years ago! Unbelievable that zero progress has been made in 40 years along the Grand River corridor.

[quantim]

Worked on Woodward Ave. within visual of the Fisher Theater for the better of the 90’s. Had to drive down Rosa Parks Blvd. to get to work.

Driving on Rosa Parks Blvd., the perspective still looks like Beirut on a good day after the civil war in Lebanon.

I met (served personally) Rosa Parks a couple of times on the job - although too aged to really speak, the entourage around her was akin to Louis Farrakan, and all the family members quietly sniped about like a pack of hyenas.

There is nothing more haunting in my lifetime than driving down a road named after a certain person for many years, an American icon, meeting her a couple hours later on the job in a tiny oasis of America’s largest ghetto, and wanting to ask what she thinks of this ghetto, with a road named after her in the middle of it.

Quite honestly, she wouldn’t be a liberal.