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To: PreciousLiberty
poorly named Masada

I don't know which gun you're referring to, but the Roman siege at Masada, if I recall, is regarded by many Jews as a high point in their history, something of which they're very proud. From a marketing perspective, it actually makes very good sense to me. Smacks of tough, never surrender Israeli soldiers to me.

10 posted on 11/10/2007 5:34:27 AM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: Hardastarboard
To me it smacks of "kill yourself before your overthrown".

How about "San Jacinto" that smacks of "it took 18 minutes for the Texans to destroy the Mexican army".

16 posted on 11/10/2007 5:37:18 AM PST by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: Hardastarboard

“I don’t know which gun you’re referring to, but the Roman siege at Masada, if I recall, is regarded by many Jews as a high point in their history, something of which they’re very proud. From a marketing perspective, it actually makes very good sense to me. Smacks of tough, never surrender Israeli soldiers to me.”

I understand, but I’d never name a rifle after a battle where the good guys all committed suicide. :-/

The gun looks VERY interesting though, it’s being made in America by Magpul:

http://www.magpul.com/tech/masada.html

There are videos on YouTube as well.


20 posted on 11/10/2007 5:39:26 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: Hardastarboard; stratous

At Masada there were 1,000 non-combatant men, women and children...just regular civilians, and not “tough, never surrender Israeli soldiers”

Using the type of kosher death visited upon animals ...a certain way of quickly slitting the throat...they killed each other until a few hardy souls committed suicide at the end...

When the Roman soldiers finally arrived at the tyop of the mountain, there were only dead bodies laid out on their beds as though asleep in all the houses to conquer...women dressed in their best clothes and jewelry, children neatly dressed, Levitical priests in their robes...

It was one of the greatest points in Hebrew history...The Romans admitted defeat...

I’ve been to Masada...They had enough water in their cisterns to have held out indefinitely, animals for meat and vegetable gardens...

If the Romans had not built a dirt and stone slope,they would never have got to the top..

It took the Romans weeks to build the slope...the remains of which can still be distinguished....during that time the Hebrews had plenty of time to discuss and settle in their minds that mass suicide was the only way they could foil the enemy and cheat the Roman soldiers of the spoils of war in slaves, wholesale rape, and brutal deaths and torture...

The Romans admitted defeat and were demoralized due to the events at Masada....

Masada might be a bad choice for the nanme of a weapon, but not because there is no honor or strength in the name...but rather that Masada stands for the determination or ordinary people to defeat overwhelming numbers of an enemy by cheating them of certain victory in any way left to the defenders ...

At the moment, the numbers of illegal aliens is not overwhelming...and we are not at Masada-forced decisions yet...

But the threat is real...the illegal aliens have already rioted repeatedly in our streets starting in April, 2006...violence against American citizens has been spotty, but at any moment wholesale attacks could occur...

Illegal aliens may refuse to speak our language or adhere to our laws, but they readily use our technology...tech messages and verbal communication by cellphones brought teeming thousands to the streets of Chicago and LA for their illegal “marches”

Those same cellphones and Spanish media can gather the illegal aliens for wholesale violence and destruction within a few hours....is a Kristallnacht of immense proportions against American citizens, in our future?

The illegal aliens are not the innocent under-dogs...the American citizens are the ones who are being abused and victimized..

Using threats and cute phrases like “we are creating an underclass of people”, “Hispanic intifada”, “anti-immigration hysteria”, and “ratings-hungry cable-television hotheads” does not improved relations between the illegal aliens and the American citizens ... but instead glaringly illustrates the gull and offensiveness of the illegal aliens and their apologists..


73 posted on 11/10/2007 6:39:22 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Hardastarboard
I don't know which gun you're referring to, but the Roman siege at Masada...

Masada has a long history, but is best remembered as a sort of jewish Alamo.

90 posted on 11/10/2007 7:08:56 AM PST by Spirochete
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