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Two Smart Guys on How To Campaign in Virginia
NRO ^ | 11/09/07 | Jim Greaghty

Posted on 11/09/2007 2:33:14 PM PST by Dane

Two Smart Guys on How To Campaign in Virginia

Two of the more interesting assessments of Republican campaigns in Virginia I've read come from Patrick Ruffini (who admits he's more of a national politics guy)...

Instead of applying blunt force on the immigration issue in a diverse community, you zero in on the illegal immigration-related quality of life concerns that 90% of the electorate can identify with, like the scourge of MS-13 gang violence in the region. Were I running in Northern Virginia, I wouldn’t mention the words “illegal immigration.” I would talk exclusively about MS-13, and about working with ICE to deport every violent criminal in the area illegally. This is the fatal mistake that ex-prosecutor Jerry Kilgore made in 2005 — and the GOP candidates this time around didn’t do much better

(Excerpt) Read more at campaignspot.nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Vermont; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: aliens; gangs; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; ms13; ruffini
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To: Dane

It is truly sad to watch people manipulate reality and insult people in order to cower them from speaking out against the illegal alien invasion.

Dane, if you dislike the folks who support the rule of law here, why are you here?

Expend your energy at the local La Raza, MALDEF or MechLa office, where you’ll be appreciated for your talents.


21 posted on 11/09/2007 3:13:03 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Mrs Crinton have Pay Feava. There she go now. "Ah Hsu Ahhh Hsu Ah Hsu!" Crintons worth every penny.)
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To: DuncanWaring
That doesn’t make them amenable to “assimilation and English”.

And how do you know that? Maybe if you went after the teacher unions who promote bi-lingual education for their own financial aggrandizement, maybe you would get somewhere.

22 posted on 11/09/2007 3:13:04 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: DoughtyOne
It is truly sad to watch people manipulate reality and insult people in order to cower them from speaking out against the illegal alien invasion

LOL! Doughty, check out the last couple of threads I posted. It seems that it your side who tries to shout down debate with childish ad hominem attacks.

23 posted on 11/09/2007 3:16:23 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
Bilingual education causes this:?

Plenty more pictures where that one came from.

24 posted on 11/09/2007 3:25:10 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
Bilingual education causes this:?

Uh jah!!!! How come you have no criticism of the teachers union which promotes such junk?

25 posted on 11/09/2007 3:28:04 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
LOL! Doughty, check out the last couple of threads I posted. It seems that it your side who tries to shout down debate with childish ad hominem attacks.

Dane, people are sick and tired of fifth columnists who seek to support the illegal alien invasion of our nation.  You are nothing more than a usefil idiot leftist when it comes to this invasion.

You front for people who do not respect our laws, think nothing of flooding our schools with their children displacing those who pay the taxes to put their kids in them in the first place, but can't.  These folks are forcing an undue burden on hard working U.S. Citizen families, These folks are destroying our health care facilities almost single-handedly.

Communities that were upscale and very nice looking twenty years ago are now gheto no go zones, trashed and dangerous.  The families inside these zones don't speak English.  Even their kids are as proficient at it as last generation immigrant children were.  They don't have too.  Large areas are now essentially foreign soil.

This is what we have to deal with every day.  And you sit there and front for this like the explitive deleted you are.

Shout you down?  You're damned right folks do.  People who spend their lives trying to observe the laws of this nation, and it's sanctitiy and sovereignty get a little touchy when someone like you pulls the things you do.

Like I said, go to your locak La Raza, MALDEF or MechLa offices and go to work.  Of course that is if you don't work for one or more of them already.
26 posted on 11/09/2007 3:29:48 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Mrs Crinton have Pay Feava. There she go now. "Ah Hsu Ahhh Hsu Ah Hsu!" Crintons worth every penny.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Dane, people are sick and tired of fifth columnists who seek to support the illegal alien invasion of our nation. You are nothing more than a usefil idiot leftist when it comes to this invasion.

Wow the ad hominems came barreling out in the first sentence.

27 posted on 11/09/2007 3:32:24 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane; DuncanWaring

Please point us to where DuncanWaring was praising a teacher’s union.

OBTW, I didn’t see him praising the local MS-13 gang either. I guess you forgot to include that insult.


28 posted on 11/09/2007 3:33:35 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Mrs Crinton have Pay Feava. There she go now. "Ah Hsu Ahhh Hsu Ah Hsu!" Crintons worth every penny.)
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To: Dane

And as long as you can’t deny the validity of them on point, they will remain in the category of fact, not fiction.


29 posted on 11/09/2007 3:35:01 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Mrs Crinton have Pay Feava. There she go now. "Ah Hsu Ahhh Hsu Ah Hsu!" Crintons worth every penny.)
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To: DoughtyOne; DuncanWaring
Please point us to where DuncanWaring was praising a teacher’s union.

Duncan isn't praising, neither is he criticizing.

30 posted on 11/09/2007 3:36:21 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

I’d just as soon drive a stake through the heart of the teacher’s unions, for a variety of reasons.

But I really don’t think they’re the ones to blame for our colonization from south of the border.


31 posted on 11/09/2007 3:38:26 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
I’d just as soon drive a stake through the heart of the teacher’s unions, for a variety of reasons. But I really don’t think they’re the ones to blame for our colonization from south of the border.

Uh to me they are as is the modern democrat party for they push victimization, ala hugo chavez.

32 posted on 11/09/2007 3:40:54 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: DuncanWaring

Neither does he, but it sounded so good he couldn’t pass up throwing it out there.


33 posted on 11/09/2007 3:41:17 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Mrs Crinton have Pay Feava. There she go now. "Ah Hsu Ahhh Hsu Ah Hsu!" Crintons worth every penny.)
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To: Dane

What has this to do with teacher’s unions Dane? Dang, you can’t even figure that one out for yourself. DuncanWaring nailed it in post 31.


34 posted on 11/09/2007 3:42:54 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Mrs Crinton have Pay Feava. There she go now. "Ah Hsu Ahhh Hsu Ah Hsu!" Crintons worth every penny.)
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To: Dane
Uh to me they are as is the modern democrat party for they push victimization, ala hugo chavez.

For crying out loud, you've got a lot of room to talk about the democrat party or teacher's unions on this topic, ala hugo chavez. You sound just like them more often than not on this topic.

35 posted on 11/09/2007 3:45:27 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Mrs Crinton have Pay Feava. There she go now. "Ah Hsu Ahhh Hsu Ah Hsu!" Crintons worth every penny.)
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To: DoughtyOne
What has this to do with teacher’s unions Dane? Dang, you can’t even figure that one out for yourself. DuncanWaring nailed it in post 31.

Uh that they push this victimization crap, but what the hey you would rather ignore the root cause and go on a xenophobic orgy.

36 posted on 11/09/2007 3:46:03 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
But that will fall on deaf ears here, IMO, as the posts of bite me and how dare you question me, flow like an open fire hydrant from some posters.

And yet, you continue on anyways....

37 posted on 11/09/2007 3:46:55 PM PST by NeoCaveman ("Don't doubt me" - The Great El Rushbo)
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To: Dane
Why do you want to keep the rest of the world out to benefit mexico? That is of course the outcome of the policies you support.
38 posted on 11/09/2007 3:47:01 PM PST by mthom
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To: Dane
Uh that they push this victimization crap, but what the hey you would rather ignore the root cause and go on a xenophobic orgy.

Dane you are one helpless dude.

You pull the victimization garbage whenever it suits you.  You just know it won't work anymore so you have moved on to other leftist tactics.

Here you trot out the ultimate tool of desperation, the injection of racism.  "...xenophobic orgy..."  Last time I check dingo, the laws of our nation didn't hinge on the color of someone's skin.  We all have to live by the laws of the United States.  And foreign nationals are no exception.

You are such a consumate leftist illegal alien invasion advocate that you have even bastardized a great phrase from Ronald Reagan to further your pet agenda.

Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987

Dane, the wall is going to be built.  The only question is what side of it you will ultimately wind up on.
39 posted on 11/09/2007 3:56:16 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Mrs Crinton have Pay Feava. There she go now. "Ah Hsu Ahhh Hsu Ah Hsu!" Crintons worth every penny.)
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To: DoughtyOne
You are such a consumate leftist illegal alien invasion advocate that you have even bastardized a great phrase from Ronald Reagan to further your pet agenda.

uh then according to you Ronald Reagan bastardized it himself.

JMO, Ronald Reagan believed in tearing down walls, not putting them up as your heroes the buchanan/tancrfedoites and soviet stalinists were wont to do.

40 posted on 11/09/2007 4:06:22 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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