Posted on 11/09/2007 2:33:14 PM PST by Dane
Two Smart Guys on How To Campaign in Virginia
Two of the more interesting assessments of Republican campaigns in Virginia I've read come from Patrick Ruffini (who admits he's more of a national politics guy)...
Instead of applying blunt force on the immigration issue in a diverse community, you zero in on the illegal immigration-related quality of life concerns that 90% of the electorate can identify with, like the scourge of MS-13 gang violence in the region. Were I running in Northern Virginia, I wouldn’t mention the words “illegal immigration.” I would talk exclusively about MS-13, and about working with ICE to deport every violent criminal in the area illegally. This is the fatal mistake that ex-prosecutor Jerry Kilgore made in 2005 — and the GOP candidates this time around didn’t do much better
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But that will fall on deaf ears here, IMO, as the posts of bite me and how dare you question me, flow like an open fire hydrant from some posters.
Dane, if you can’t grasp this issue any better than that by now, talking to you is pointless.
Your attempts to damn folks for their views on illegal immigration are what has failed.
While you and I have gone round and round on this issue, twenty million or more illegal immigrants have come across our border.
I’m not going to be pacified while another forty million pour across. We ending this now, with or without your help.
If what you say is true, then why are 77% of people against giving illegals licenses and why did the congressional amnesty bill poll so badly?
One reason might be that people in this country realize cheap labor won't be as cheap when it isn't illegal labor.
Uh take a look at the election results, that is what is damning the hyperbolic FR immigration lobby.
Believe me, the only FReepers with credible answers about campaigning in Northern Virginia, particularly with regards to illegal immigration, are FReepers who live in Northern Virginia.
Northern Virginia is a world of a difference from Tennessee, Texas, and other States further south. Hell, it's a world of a difference from much of the rest of Virginia.
Seriously, you make some good points. And I say this as someone who does live in Northern Virginia.
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This is the fatal mistake that ex-prosecutor Jerry Kilgore made in 2005
Funny I don't remember the first statement from Kilgore on illegals in 2005. And as far as the southwestern end of the state, other than local yokels running and their yard signs and a few letters to the editor in the local liberal rag. There was no local advertisement at all by legislatures for state campaign. But everyone was sure mad as hell about the stupid fines passed last session, all of which will be repealed the first day of the new session.
However, you can bet that the senate race will be hot on moving the illegals out of the state.
And then why did 4 GOP VA senators lose their races while playing the immigration card.
That is the right solution for States on the Mexican border. The present rampant, almost unchecked flow of immigration into the United States across the border with Mexico does need to be controlled.
And folks from Virginia will help. However, dealing with the illegals already present within the boundaries of Virginia itself is...a bit of a quandary, because we have far too many blue state refugees flooding across the Potomac into Northern Virginia, and many are overly sympathetic to the plight of the illegals.
Two freaking punks, so what, I guess to you all whites should be judged by the actions of charlie manson and jeffrey dahmer.
Sorry about your case Dane. If the people in Virginia want to ignore the problems in the other states until it has swamped them as well, that’s their right. I would sure hate to be a Virginian and have my political leaders hold off telling me what the ramifications would be so I could make my own informed decision. Evidently you wouldn’t mind at all.
LOL! Yes, just those “punks” and the epidemic of gang crimes perpetrated by MS-13 mentioned in your bloody post. Smooth Dane, real smooth...
Well, from a state that allowed it’s leaders both state and federal to desimate our region, I suggest you folks who still respect the laws of this nation stand up and scream bloody murder before you become Southern California. You’ll fair a lot better reading this post and taking some action that you will not taking any, I guarantee you.
And I do understand what you are up against, believe me.
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Oh for goodness sakes. Why did the members of the Prince William County Council do so well despite being the most visible figures in the battle against illegal immigration? A number ran unopposed presumably because they are so popular.
The Chairman was re-elected by a wide margin over his opponent. Despite a major initiative by the pro-illegal forces to defeat him and others who took action on this issue.
The mere fact that illegal immigration was raised as an issue in a campaign does not mean it was decisive. The RATS poured huge amounts of money into certain races, and changing demographics was a factor in some of them. I am told that one GOP senator who lost was seen as soft on illegals.
It’s not Virginia, but according to press reports, the GOP mayor of Greeley CO was turned out of office for being an open borders type. He was replaced by a RAT who ran on precisely the opposite platform.
Duncan you are the democrats best friend, most of those people wanted to work and of course you are going to have small pockets of commie agitators, which you blow out of proportion, and sticks of the GOP with the soil of tancredo/buchanan.
You’re touching on precisely the snake oil salesman approach brought to us by some people who have absolutely nothing to do with conservatism, if they are going to seek to mislead people on this forum in that manner. Then they incorporate insults to the people on this forum who do support the rule of law to top it all off. You’re 100% right on target.
Of course most of those people “just want to work”.
That doesn’t make them amenable to “assimilation and English”.
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