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GM's Buick (Enclave) is #1! Yes It's True, I'm Not Making This Up
CNBC.com ^ | November 08, 2007 | Phil LeBeau

Posted on 11/08/2007 2:07:40 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: E. Pluribus Unum
WTH is a Buick Enclave?

Guess I stopped paying attention to the Big 3 too long ago...............

21 posted on 11/08/2007 2:23:43 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: aroundabout

That’s not fair!!!! I don’t like Nissans so I got a Santa Fe (only because I couldn’t quite swing the $35,000.00 for a Pilot) and at only 6’1” can’t fit behind the wheel.......


22 posted on 11/08/2007 2:23:56 PM PST by logic (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE conservative candidate!!)
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To: purpleraine

About $15,000


23 posted on 11/08/2007 2:24:17 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: RegulatorCountry
My wife and I are thinking of buying a new car in the next month or two and were looking at the Toyota Sienna. How would you say this car stacks up against it?

I was looking at Edmunds' reviews on the car and some of the new owners were making a complaint or two about the 6 speed transmission. Honda's Odyssy also had transmission issues. As you own one, what do you think?

24 posted on 11/08/2007 2:24:42 PM PST by Nachum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I first saw the Enclave in a preview online. I like cars but I am no enthusiast and I know squat about engines and all the technical terms (beyond the basics) and my first impression was that the Enclave was going to be, OFF THE HOOK (as the kids say.)


25 posted on 11/08/2007 2:24:45 PM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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My mistake, but still that Roadmaster looks cool, it’ll never sell though except to the baby boomers.


26 posted on 11/08/2007 2:25:14 PM PST by Eye of Unk
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To: purpleraine

Answer: None


27 posted on 11/08/2007 2:27:18 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: shbox
I just hope people don’t put those stick figures on the back glass that represent dad, mom, sisters, and puppy.

They use petroglyph Honu (sea turtles) stickers in Hawaii.

Not nearly as annoying.........

28 posted on 11/08/2007 2:27:24 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: purpleraine
could someone tell this oldtimer the difference between a station wagon and a crossover?

Station wagon is a slightly stretched car, Traditional SUV is a pick-up with the bed made into the rest of an enclosed vehicle (remember cars are now unibody without a frame but trucks still have frames) so a crossover is basically an SUV (usually a little smaller but nowhere near as small as a car) without the frame, or a much taller station wagon...

29 posted on 11/08/2007 2:27:31 PM PST by logic (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE conservative candidate!!)
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To: purpleraine
Beats me, except that this is a station wagon:

and I think that this is a crossover.

and I don't think Buick makes them (station wagons) anymore.

30 posted on 11/08/2007 2:31:48 PM PST by NathanR ( Duncan Hunter for SecDef)
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To: Nachum
the buick is a cross-over vehicle. more SUV than mini-van.

check out the recent issue of car & driver magazine (november, 2007).

they do a comparison of 5 leading mini-vans. the toyota sienna comes in 2nd behind the honda odyssey.

the article give the toyota high marks for the engine, passing power, tansmission, quiet interior, and 2nd row seats.

the toyota lacks in exterior design and they say it is tough to fold the 2nd and 3rd row seats. it is a good article. check it out at a magazine stand. the article begins on page 58.

31 posted on 11/08/2007 2:33:14 PM PST by thefactor
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To: Nachum

Issues with an electronic, six speed auto have happened with a number of manufacturers, Honda, VW, GM (and Ford, the transmission in question was co-developed by GM and Ford) and others. The Toyota Sienna has been around for a while, can’t say anything bad about it functionally.

The mileage figures can be deceiving for all of these larger vehicles. If you do a lot of city driving, you’re going to be disappointed with all of them, they’re heavy. The Acadia weighs nearly 5,000 pounds. I have no problem getting the new, revised EPA rating on the highway (down to 24 mpg, from 26), and almost always exceed it on longer trips. Around town, you have to really try, to get the EPA number (revised down to 16 mpg, from 18).

Stylistically, there is no comparison between a Sienna minivan and the GMC Acadia; the Acadia wins running away, imho. It’s a very attractive vehicle inside and out. I’ve been a Toyota man for two decades, and the decision to buy not just domestic but GM was not taken lightly. If you’re really more in the market for a minivan, and need the sliding doors and the lower floor, I’d honestly go for the Honda Odyssey, because it’s the resale leader as far as minivans go.


32 posted on 11/08/2007 2:33:24 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: logic

I’m 5-10/11 and fit quite comfortably in my Santa Fe (2006.) I like the front styling on the 2007 a lot more but it’s not like my girl is ugly or anything. And I drove from Seattle to Iowa without any problem.

Well, other than when I forgot I pulled in front of one of those concrete parking stops and drove OVER IT when I left the spot. LOL No damage, though and everything runs quite smoothly.

Nice car and I got the 2006 with only 10K miles on it for 16.9K. At the time I bought it for less than trade-in and it is the high-end trim.


33 posted on 11/08/2007 2:35:15 PM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Enclave?

“In political geography, an enclave is a country or part of a country mostly surrounded by the territory of another country or wholly lying within the boundaries of another country,[1] and an exclave is a part of a country which is geographically separated from the main part by surrounding alien territory.[2] Many entities are both enclaves and exclaves, but not all are simultaneously both.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enclave


34 posted on 11/08/2007 2:37:37 PM PST by GreenLanternCorps (Thompson for President: 2008, 2012: Jindal for President 2016, 2020)
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To: shbox

The Buick definitely costs less than the Cayenne...


35 posted on 11/08/2007 2:39:04 PM PST by tips up
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

My neighbor just got a Taurus X, SUV. Nice looking ride.

With all the folks getting ready to retire, Buick has a growing market ahead. :^)

I like the new Buicks, wouldn’t mind having one in the driveway. My wife’s Century is very comfortable.


36 posted on 11/08/2007 2:39:48 PM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
It's a beautiful car. I just saw one on the highway a few minutes ago. There are some great American cars out there...I'm picking up my 2008 Cadillac CTS next week....this exact color too!


37 posted on 11/08/2007 2:40:51 PM PST by Hildy
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To: purpleraine
could someone tell this oldtimer the difference between a station wagon and a crossover?

That's easy.

Station wagons were eeevil gas guzzlers that were mandated away by CAFE regulations, then returned Phoenix-like from the ashes in the form of the even more eeeevil truck-based SUV (people want to engage in all sorts of eeevil abominations like carrying lots of passengers and towing trailers, you see).

Since truck-based SUVs are so eeeevil, auto manufacturers now make less eeevil crossover SUVs based on newer car platforms, so they are more palatable to the public (not so eeevil).

Hybrid crossovers are availble too, so automotive sainthood is available to those who want it.

38 posted on 11/08/2007 2:41:33 PM PST by Disambiguator (Political Correctness is criminal insanity writ large.)
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To: Nachum
Honda's Odyssy also had transmission issues.

It's been my observation that mini-vans in general have transmission issues. It's too large of a vehicle built on too weak of a drivetrain.
39 posted on 11/08/2007 2:43:42 PM PST by JamesP81
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I wish Buick all the luck in the world. I would hate to see another American automobile manufacturer go down the tubes (even though in some cases it’s deserved.)


40 posted on 11/08/2007 2:46:08 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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